'elf and safety

toooldtorock

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Earlier today whilst at the checkout of a certain supermarket, was advised to lay my beer bottles down flat. Why, I asked? 'Elf and safety reasons advised the colleague. What 'elf and safety reasons I asked? They might fall off the conveyor and onto my feet, the colleague advised. Has that ever happened, I asked? No, came the response. So I said in that case I'd like my beer bottles conveyed upright please. If you don't lay them flat I can't serve you, came the response! So, leaving my trolley in the gangway, I drove to another supermarket who were happy for me to purchase my beer bottles in an upright state. Crazy or what??
 

joshua

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Common sense failure as always, if the belts were properly serviced then they would travel smoothly with no jerks and there would be little chance of your booze toppling over.
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
It's a trap. If you're injured whilst laying the bottles down, they will want to see your NVQ in Glass Vessel Handling.

Or you could lay them across the belt, just out of reach, and watch, whilst they stay where they are every time the belt starts or stops..
 

My Name is URL

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I can see their point, that it is a good idea to lay them down... but to refuse to serve you if you didn't is CRAZY..

Which supermarket was this BTW?
 

Wormella

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I managed to knock a bottle of beer off a conveyor that was stood up right so it does make sense to lay them flat.
 

db

#chaplife
gk141054 said:
I can see their point, that it is a good idea to lay them down... but to refuse to serve you if you didn't is CRAZY..

Which supermarket was this BTW?
yeah, i agree.. i always lay my bottles down at the supermarket, seems common sense to me, but i think insisting that you have to is a bit daft..
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
Belt ettiquette is an undefined area. I always arrange my purchases to come off in the order in which I want to pack them, but many operatives seem to want to have the belt move in as few steps as possible and will remove the items behind the front row first, and repeat this when the next batch finally arrives at the front.
 

shoes

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Oh for f**k sake.

I cannot believe this is even a thread.

This is just as bad as that t**t who was moaning about being repeatedly asked for ID when buying fags, and didn't take it with them.
 

toooldtorock

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I have to disagree. Having done the odd risk assessment or two myself, there are two aspects - Hazard and Likelihood. Now life is full of hazards - walking to work, driving a car, upright beer bottles BUT this is balanced by the likelihood of that hazard causing an injury, and in view of the fact that there had been no previous incidents of beer bottles falling off the conveyor, the likelihood is extremely unlikely (?), so the need to lay them flat is not necessary. Also, if the hazard and likelihood is that great, checkout colleagues should be wearing safety boots for when the extremely unlikelihood incident happens!
 

toooldtorock

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shoes said:
Oh for f**k sake.

I cannot believe this is even a thread.

This is just as bad as that t**t who was moaning about being repeatedly asked for ID when buying fags, and didn't take it with them.
Shoes, Aaah the joy of this forum, and don't call me a twat, you twat
 

db

#chaplife
Gramaisc said:
Belt ettiquette is an undefined area. I always arrange my purchases to come off in the order in which I want to pack them
i'm a real stickler for this as well.. it's always bottles first (laid down, natch), then items which have to remain flat (e.g. pre-packed meat, fruit packs, etc.) so they can have the most floor space in the bag and be stacked, then the remaining items are put on the belt in descending order of fragility (e.g. the bread goes on near the end, so it doesn't get squashed under anything else)..

seriously, i could go into so much more detail about the thought i put into my conveyor belt organisation - every trip to asda is like a game of tetris for me lol..

Gramaisc said:
...but many operatives seem to want to have the belt move in as few steps as possible and will remove the items behind the front row first, and repeat this when the next batch finally arrives at the front.
i have never experienced this, and i sincerely hope i never do :grr:

toooldtorock said:
this is balanced by the likelihood of that hazard causing an injury, and in view of the fact that there had been no previous incidents of beer bottles falling off the conveyor, the likelihood is extremely unlikely (?)
my bottles have fallen over before, hence me adopting the above protocol.. i've never had a breakage, but i can see how it's entirely possible..
 

gon2seed

(and me! - Ed)
Not read all this thread, but now lay ALL bottles down, safely, after having one topple, and spill, as well as sending all my other purchases spinning!
 

db

#chaplife
toooldtorock said:
shoes said:
Oh for f**k sake.

I cannot believe this is even a thread.

This is just as bad as that t**t who was moaning about being repeatedly asked for ID when buying fags, and didn't take it with them.
Shoes, Aaah the joy of this forum, and don't call me a twat, you twat
you are forgetting that shoes is borderline aspergers and cannot possibly fathom why the world doesn't work exactly as he expects it to in his head :teef:
 

tek-monkey

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db said:
i'm a real stickler for this as well.. it's always bottles first (laid down, natch), then items which have to remain flat (e.g. pre-packed meat, fruit packs, etc.) so they can have the most floor space in the bag and be stacked, then the remaining items are put on the belt in descending order of fragility (e.g. the bread goes on near the end, so it doesn't get squashed under anything else)..

seriously, i could go into so much more detail about the thought i put into my conveyor belt organisation - every trip to asda is like a game of tetris for me lol..
I am SO glad its not just me :D
 

toooldtorock

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db said:
toooldtorock said:
shoes said:
Oh for f**k sake.

I cannot believe this is even a thread.

This is just as bad as that t**t who was moaning about being repeatedly asked for ID when buying fags, and didn't take it with them.
Shoes, Aaah the joy of this forum, and don't call me a twat, you twat
you are forgetting that shoes is borderline aspergers and cannot possibly fathom why the world doesn't work exactly as he expects it to in his head :teef:
I'm sorry SHOES, as I don't know you I didn't know. I hope they find a cure
 

shoes

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db said:
toooldtorock said:
shoes said:
Oh for f**k sake.

I cannot believe this is even a thread.

This is just as bad as that t**t who was moaning about being repeatedly asked for ID when buying fags, and didn't take it with them.
Shoes, Aaah the joy of this forum, and don't call me a twat, you twat
you are forgetting that shoes is borderline aspergers and cannot possibly fathom why the world doesn't work exactly as he expects it to in his head :teef:
No I can't fathom why you would want to make any fuss at all about laying down your bottles on a conveyor belt. Nor can I fathom why people opt to make life so difficult for themselves unnecessarily.
 

db

#chaplife
shoes said:
db said:
toooldtorock said:
Shoes, Aaah the joy of this forum, and don't call me a twat, you twat
you are forgetting that shoes is borderline aspergers and cannot possibly fathom why the world doesn't work exactly as he expects it to in his head :teef:
No I can't fathom why you would want to make any fuss at all about laying down your bottles on a conveyor belt. Nor can I fathom why people opt to make life so difficult for themselves unnecessarily.
no, i agree with you (see my above posts for evidence of how anal [lol i said "anal"] i am about how things "should" be done), i was just pointing out to toooldtorock that he should be used to your idiosyncrasies by now lol
 

shoes

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toooldtorock said:
shoes said:
Oh for f**k sake.

I cannot believe this is even a thread.

This is just as bad as that t**t who was moaning about being repeatedly asked for ID when buying fags, and didn't take it with them.
Shoes, Aaah the joy of this forum, and don't call me a twat, you twat
I didn't call you a twat. Unless of course you're that twat , in which case you're a double twat and should probably just abandon the idea of shopping all together, as, for you, it was clearly never meant to be.
 

toooldtorock

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I didn't make the fuss about lying them down flat, the checkout did. I think the diffuculty was had by the Supermarket returning all my intended purchases back to there original locations. I happily got into my car drove to another supermarket and got my beer - no stress on my part at all
 
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