'elf and safety

[shoes]

I didn't make the fuss about lying them down flat, the checkout did. I think the diffuculty was had by the Supermarket returning all my intended purchases back to there original locations. I happily got into my car drove to another supermarket and got my beer - no stress on my part at all

No stress at all, just irritated enough to abandon all of your shopping and then doing it all again elsewhere. You have too much time on your hands, clearly.

And presumably it was also you who couldn't work out the whole ID in pocket before leaving house to buy age restricted product at shop you know you're going to get ID'd at?

Try this - you can have shopping delivered to your padded cell with no danger to you or the general public.

 

[db]

jesus wept, calm down, children!

toooldtorock, getting upset at shoes being cantankerous is like getting upset at the daily mail for hating immigrants/gypsies/women/etc, or getting upset at the sky being blue..

as confucius said - "arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics: even if you win, you're still a retard"

 

[toooldtorock]

I'm sorry that last post was out of order, I withdraw the comment.

 

[toooldtorock]

I'm going to withdraw the withdrawal.

 

[United57]

Its not about health and safety, its about being reasonable. To lay them down is not an end of the world issue, as many forumites have had an incident of bottles toppling over. It is not easy working on checkouts, a lot of people are rude and ignorant. The pay is crap.

To be honest I could not do the job and deal with the crap they have to take. Then they have to be nice and all smiles. If one had fallen over after being asked to lay it flat, would you have paid for it if it had smashed.?

 

[db]

Its not about health and safety, its about being reasonable. To lay them down is not an end of the world issue, as many forumites have had an incident of bottles toppling over. It is not easy working on checkouts, a lot of people are rude and ignorant. The pay is crap.

To be honest I could not do the job and deal with the crap they have to take. Then they have to be nice and all smiles. If one had fallen over after being asked to lay it flat, would you have paid for it if it had smashed.?

good points..

i am all for railing against "health & safety gone mad", but refusing to do something simple that makes the life of you or others easier just out of principle (e.g. not laying bottles down because you personally have never witnessed gravity in effect, or not putting a credit-card-sized ID card in your credit-card-sized slot in your wallet that is already in your pocket, etc.) smells of hippy, to me!

 

[United57]

Grumpy old man alert. Told my kids if I became like Victor Meldrew to shoot me.

 

[age'd parent]

I have to agree with too old, health and safety are a pain in the ass, the super market should just live with the possibility of one or
two minor problems,

its how we learn things,(THIS should be underlined)

once a bottle is broken the customer knows there's a problem,
and if there's rules to be obeyed "Put a bl**dy notice up", Otherwise I'm going to do it my way and stack things up so they
take less space and put bottles and packets upright so as they are easy to pick up.

"I just don't believe it" could matter anyway

 

[db]

I have to agree with too old, health and safety are a pain in the ass, the super market should just live with the possibility of one or two minor problems,

its how we learn things,(THIS should be underlined)

so what you're saying is, having learned from watching bottles wobble and, on occasion, fall over, they should do nothing?

once a bottle is broken the customer knows there's a problem,
and if there's rules to be obeyed "Put a bl**dy notice up", Otherwise I'm going to do it my way and stack things up so they
take less space and put bottles and packets upright so as they are easy to pick up.

you're not picking them up though, the checkout operator is

none of this is really health & safety related.. if laying bottles down makes the operator's life easier, it's just common politeness to honour their request, surely?

 

[shoes]

Lay bottles down. Pay. Get on with your life.

no wonder nothing ever gets achieved these days, if we're all too busy making simple every day tasks into complex conundrums.

Actually, carry on, it makes my life easer if the majority of the population is sat these scratching their arses trying to figure out which hole the triangular shape block goes in...

 

[toooldtorock]

Yawn

 

[age'd parent]

Enough hassle, just put a notice up if its that important, otherwise, live with it.

 

[tek-monkey]

Who has to clean up the broken glass if it falls?

 

[db]

jesus christ, people jumped all over shoes (including me, a little) when he first exclaimed "I cannot believe this is even a thread", but now i find myself agreeing with him!

to re-iterate:

none of this is really health & safety related.. if laying bottles down makes the operator's life easier, it's just common politeness to honour their request, surely?

if the operator said "could you hand me that please?" in reference to some item, because it would make his life easier, would you say no? or would you only say no if the basis of his request purported to be health and safety, on some ridiculous point of principle?

laying the bottles down makes life easier for the people who sit there for 8 hours straight helping you to buy your farking shopping so you can then go home and enjoy it in the warmth of your house while pissing and moaning about it on the internet, is it really that hard?

thanks

 

[Gramaisc]

...but many operatives seem to want to have the belt move in as few steps as possible and will remove the items behind the front row first, and repeat this when the next batch finally arrives at the front.

i have never experienced this, and i sincerely hope i never do

It used to happen to me a lot in Sainsbury's, but I go to Lidl now and there's no problem there..

 

[toooldtorock]

Yawn

 

[toooldtorock]

PS There was a time on this forum where you could say what was on your mind, share experiences no matter how mind numbing, and people would respond in a way that wasn't aggressive, insulting etc etc. That seems to have gone of late. I'm not expecting anyone to agree with the way I felt about the incident this morning, just thought it was worth sharing but obviously some of you have very strong feelings about the relevance of it all. Taking the forum off my favourites for a while. Might come back when manners and decency returns.

 

[Gramaisc]

seriously, i could go into so much more detail about the thought i put into my conveyor belt organisation - every trip to asda is like a game of tetris for me lol..

Agreed. It's really not a simple matter. There are very many aspects that need to be considered - weight, fragility, shape, temperature, risk of moisture effects, etc.

 

[db]

PS There was a time on this forum where you could say what was on your mind, share experiences no matter how mind numbing, and people would respond in a way that wasn't aggressive, insulting etc etc. That seems to have gone of late. I'm not expecting anyone to agree with the way I felt about the incident this morning, just thought it was worth sharing but obviously some of you have very strong feelings about the relevance of it all. Taking the forum off my favourites for a while. Might come back when manners and decency returns.

in fairness, demonstrate where anyone in this thread has shown a lack of manners and decency (except shoes, which is to be expected)?

you've had people agreeing with you, people quoting their supermarket experiences, me blathering on about how anal i get about shopping stacking, and united57 worrying that he's turning into victor meldrew

i think you perceive such a problem with the forum simply because of a few outspoken individuals.. people with strong views (for example, shoes, lunar scorpion, gk141054, sofa, hetairoi, john marwood, etc.) by their very nature express them voraciously.. if these contravene your own views, it can be taken the wrong way!

bit unfair to blame the entire forum..

edit: example:

seriously, i could go into so much more detail about the thought i put into my conveyor belt organisation - every trip to asda is like a game of tetris for me lol..

Agreed. It's really not a simple matter. There are very many aspects that need to be considered - weight, fragility, shape, temperature, risk of moisture effects, etc.

see, it's all still very good humoured!

 

[shoes]

I must admit I do struggle with this, for me a trip to the supermarket is conducted on autopilot. I cannot once in my life recall thinking about how I stack a conveyor belt, or even how I pack my shopping. It just happens that I automatically put it onto the belt in a sensible way, in a sensible order and then pack it that way at the other end.

So either I'm so super human that I can literally complete these massively complicated tasks incident free without even the smallest amount of consideration or you lot really are just an example of the human brain degenerating ahead of schedule.

My apologies if blatant outright common sense offends you. Grow up.