Friary retail car park.

gilesjuk

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While it is annoying that some people do park in these car parks and never use the stores, it is pretty silly to fine people who may spend a lot in a shop but also need to quickly make a trip somewhere near, eg. cashpoint!

I would contact TK Maxx and tell them you will be shopping elsewhere from now on.
 

cj1

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So if driver and passenger drive in driver leaves on foot and passenger then became driver and left. Would they still issue fine as the driver technically never left as nowhere in the t and c does it stipulate a car cannot change driver?
 

staffordjas

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How do they connect someone leaving the site on foot with a particular car?
When I've walked across the carpark to the shops there, on ,my way back from town , I've quite often had a carpark attendant (or whatever you call them ) watching me . They must be most disappointed when I walk back off the carpark again afterwards, rather than getting into a car.
 

tek-monkey

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I assume observation, but it's a bit off if they "observed" someone leaving the car whilst others remained.
I'd question their evidence, and ask about the other occupants of the car. If the signs don't make clear it's all occupants or the driver in particular I would argue reasonable assumption that as long as someone never leaves it's fine.

I've walked off from this site loads of times, but always after using the shops. I may avoid it (and the shops) in future though.
 

zebidee

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I'd question their evidence, and ask about the other occupants of the car. If the signs don't make clear it's all occupants or the driver in particular I would argue reasonable assumption that as long as someone never leaves it's fine.

I've walked off from this site loads of times, but always after using the shops. I may avoid it (and the shops) in future though.
Same here
 

The Hawk

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Does the sign say the driver mustn't leave the site, no occupant of the car may leave the site or what ?
If the signs are still the same as those viewable on Google Street View, then the key sentence says:

"Do not leave the premises at any time whilst your vehicle is parked in this car park."

"premises" is not defined.

"your vehicle" does not clarify whether they mean the owner of the vehicle or the driver of the vehicle or even each passenger carried within the vehicle.
 

Mudgie

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If the signs are still the same as those viewable on Google Street View, then the key sentence says:

"Do not leave the premises at any time whilst your vehicle is parked in this car park."

"premises" is not defined.

"your vehicle" does not clarify whether they mean the owner of the vehicle or the driver of the vehicle or even each passenger carried within the vehicle.
Thanks.
I take premises here to mean "a building together with its land and outbuildings".
 

gilesjuk

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But as I mentioned above. You may need to park there, walk to get cash out and then back to the shop. Sure, you're occupying a space for longer than if you already had cash, but it's not like you are parking there and shopping in the town.

The sheer greed of landlords in this country.
 

zebidee

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But as I mentioned above. You may need to park there, walk to get cash out and then back to the shop. Sure, you're occupying a space for longer than if you already had cash, but it's not like you are parking there and shopping in the town.

The sheer greed of landlords in this country.
I think the answer is park at asda and walk over the river. In which case you probably won't need to use £-stretcher as you can just go in asda :banana:
 

gilesjuk

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I think the answer is park at asda and walk over the river. In which case you probably won't need to use £-stretcher as you can just go in asda :banana:

The only time I go there is for TK Maxx. Historically used to go to PC World when it was there too.
 

Mudgie

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But as I mentioned above. You may need to park there, walk to get cash out and then back to the shop. Sure, you're occupying a space for longer than if you already had cash, but it's not like you are parking there and shopping in the town.

The sheer greed of landlords in this country.
But the site has to be viable for the owners and if the shops take less money because customers are staying longer with nipping elsewhere and so excluding other customers that the whole site risks being bulldozed and replaced by yet another McCarthy and Stone home which would earn more money than the shops that few people use anyway because so much is bought over the internet nowadays.
 

GNM67

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Not sure how poundstreacher is still in business, 50% off everything and still only 5 people in there
 

gilesjuk

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But the site has to be viable for the owners and if the shops take less money because customers are staying longer with nipping elsewhere and so excluding other customers that the whole site risks being bulldozed and replaced by yet another McCarthy and Stone home which would earn more money than the shops that few people use anyway because so much is bought over the internet nowadays.

I've never seen that car park anywhere near being full whenever I've used it.

These parking companies weasel their way in everywhere, landlord gets a kickback and the parking companies make money.
 
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