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Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
The same person who doesn’t know the difference between “asylum seeker” and “illegal immigrant” and quotes wildly incorrect figures about how much money asylum seekers are given, while inferring they’re all rapists. Absolutely showing her true colours. Shame as the idea of a community hub isn’t a bad one in principle, but not run by someone who is so exclusionary despite claiming to support those down on their luck.
This is usually how an 'alternative solution' would still operate.

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bunique

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I’ll hold my hands up and say I probably wouldn’t be thrilled to be living next door to asylum accommodation. But I also recognise the dire living arrangement (they can’t work, Serco don’t provide any training courses or teach them English, they are given a pittance to live on) is what drives groups of asylum seekers to be “hanging around” on the streets. Because what the feck else are they going to do?

I also know that the police and council monitor the accommodation really closely for signs of trouble because that’s what’s happened elsewhere.

And I don’t assume the residents pose any greater threat to me or my family than the England-born-and-raised dickheads off their heads in town on a Saturday night (or sometimes a Saturday morning!) :rolleyes:

One would have hoped a “community” organisation might have recognised the need and value in engaging with the asylum community, providing opportunities for volunteering and positive activities, building a relationship with them rather than anticipating the worst and running away. Certainly other groups locally have talked positively about working with asylum seekers. Missed opportunity and made them look petty and intolerant.
 

littleme

250,000th poster!
I just went on Hearts and Hands and clicked the first thread. Couldn't read more than a few comments.
Oh, I'm not a member, probably why I can't see it.

I can see it from both points of view, everyone deserves help, assylum seekers , and UK homeless & all vulnerable, but I can see the view of people living next to it too....they signed up to living next to a university were people are studying to better themselves. The assylum seekers will have a much tougher journey than your average student. They're given very little to live in, no work or education and boredom untill they're processed. When all people are seeing us the trouble that's happened in other areas (stoke/penkridge) what are they going to think. ???


Today in my job we have a new wave of people get picking fruit/veg.... They're trying to shop...but they don't know our rules...some older customers were very rude to them as they pushed, didn't queue, interrupted constantly.... But it's because it's their first few days in a new country...we all have to work together to show & help them ....they're here seeking a better life, whether it's through work or seeking assylum, either way, everyone deserves a chance, live & let live.
 
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bunique

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Trouble in Stoke linked to the hotels? I’d be very, very surprised if that was true given the demographic housed there.
 

gilbert grape

Well-Known Forumite
Just scoured that neighbour nextdoor thingy and there's some pink salty sorts hovering round on there. Thankfully one or two not just nodding in agreement!
 

gilbert grape

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Hearts & Hands was an organisation for The People. But now it's for Our People. As harsh as that sounds, some of the messages are now coming across like that and I am sad to say that, as they looked after many people, whoever they were, in the last few years.
 

EasMid

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I’ve just read their post & a few of the replies…… Talk about ignorant hysteria.
A bit ironic that hearts have posted under the heading “New Beginnings”. Is that theirs or the asylum seekers new beginnings.
All of the replies concern safety, 12 year old brides etc etc yet no-one mentions things like overloaded amenities like hospitals etc. That’s my only concern but I have the same concerns about all the new houses & things like the Army camp bringing in lots of extra families with no extra infrastructure provided. But, hey, that’s different & ok because they’re “our people “
 
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PeterD

ST16 Represent.
What I can ascertain from the thing that hasn't happened yet, is that they will take all of the jobs, but they will not be working, they are attracted to both adult women, and children. Crime will rise, house prices will go down and they are terrorists. Oh and they want to house former soldiers in accomodation that they stress is not suitable to house someone.
These people are absolutely not racist, and if I went off the postings of one of the instigators, she isnt racist, she dislikes everyone.
 
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proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
House prices falling sounds great for first time buyers.
The downside being that your women and children will be raped and the only way you'll gain entry to your street each day will be to shout out Allahu Akbar (which as we all know is the clarion call for Islamic State) at the top of your voice.

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