Public torrent trackers: Looks like it may all be coming to an end :o(

shoes

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The fundamental fact is that they host nothing illicit, I will have to read deeper into this later on because I'm having real trouble understanding what it is exactly they have been convicted of - providing an infrastructure?
 

MyCult

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By this logic, can we charge petrol stations and oil companies for facilitating car accident & dangerous driving? How about charging Car manufacturers with aiding and abetting TWOK?

I could go on for hours but I've misplaced my key. Better find them or I'll be up in Stafford Court for negligently inviting burglary by the end of the week... :P
 

MyCult

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A question - so the 30MSEK (£2,390,909.05) that should be paid to the media companies - are they in turn going to pass that on to the artists? the supposed victims here?
 

shoes

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Again I don't understand how a figure like this can be plucked out of the sky!? It is a physical impossibility to calculate losses due to piracy as you cannot guarantee the sales would have been made had the material not been downloaded.
 

wmrcomputers

Stafford PC & laptop repair specialist
tek monkey's comment is true about the site's doing something which search engines do everyday. Where oh where will this end!?!?!???
 

age'd parent

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More details of tpb judge

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/technologynews/5208528/Pirate-Bay-trial-judge-denies-accusations-of-bias.html
 

tek-monkey

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Just stick filetype:torrent onto the end of any google search and it will find your stuff anyway, don't need a real site to search from.
 

MyCult

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That is very true Tek, and ATM that will work. But as you've said already Google is just a massive scrapper site (I've an entirely different rant about that) so if those files didn't exist on any server (like TPB & others) then G wouldn't index them and you wouldn't find them in G. Google piggy-backs the torrent sites but they wouldn't replace them.
 

MyCult

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Re-thinking I have completely missed the point there. TPB have been charged with making available the facilities to attain copyrighted material (or wtf ever it was) and you point out that G does exactly the same. G isn’t on trail though...

Too many ciders last night...
 

MyCult

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ars technica said:
The Pirate Bay verdict goes English, and we dish the dirt

The Pirate Bay ruling has been translated into English, and it's full of little surprises. Ars dives in to answer the big questions: who possessed those Klomifen tablets, how much did the state pay to defend The Pirate Bay admins, and why did the backers consider moving to Argentina?
The article that lead me to the The Pirate Bay Verdict translated into English (PDF)

Google defence said:
The Google defense. During the trial, the defendants harped on the fact that Google also indexes .torrent files, many of them infringing; why was a search engine like The Pirate Bay on trial while a search engine like Google was not?

Here is the judge's answer in its most condensed form: "In accordance with what will be further demonstrated below, all the defendants were aware that a large number of the website’s users were engaged in the unlawful disposal of copyright-protected material. By providing a website with advanced search functions and easy uploading and downloading facilities, and by putting individual filesharers in touch with one other through the tracker linked to the site, the operation run via The Pirate Bay has, in the opinion of the District Court, facilitated and, consequently, aided and abetted these offences."
 
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