Stafford Traffic.

Steve_b

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Diversion Route 👇

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Thehooperman

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kyoto49 said:
This is one of my major annoyances as a pedestrian, the fact that none of the lights prioritise pedestrians. Once pressed they wait for a gap in the traffic before changing to red. If there was a gap I wouldn't need to press the button idiot planners. If no gap arises the lights change only have an inordinate amount of time which in poor weather is deeply unpleasant. All the lights need changing to prioritise pedestrians at the expense of the motorist. Small things like not having to wait an age in the pouring rain make a real difference.
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I think that all of the lights (when they are working correctly) are on a preset sequence not waiting for a gap in traffic.

The traffic around Gaolgate hasn't actually changed very much since the bypass and today I had to wait for the little green man at every crossing from Foregate to the crossing by Elemins gym with no opportunity to cross between traffic.
 
Len's Lens

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Didn't see any temporary lights personally at Gaol Square roundabout. They have installed Pedestrian arrow signs to prevent people getting run over whilst the main lights aren't working and closed the main crossings. The pedestrian diversion is lengthy, and involves making a U turn after crossing to the central roundabout and realising the other crossing is closed further up, going back across the road, going over the far pedestrian crossing opposite Plumbits, then hiking all the way to the zebra crossing next to the prison entrance and safely traversing the road there - if you follow the signs that is. I'm still surprised they're not fixed yet - must be something major rather than a few fuses blown.
 
littleme

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Len's Lens said:
Didn't see any temporary lights personally at Gaol Square roundabout. They have installed Pedestrian arrow signs to prevent people getting run over whilst the main lights aren't working and closed the main crossings. The pedestrian diversion is lengthy, and involves making a U turn after crossing to the central roundabout and realising the other crossing is closed further up, going back across the road, going over the far pedestrian crossing opposite Plumbits, then hiking all the way to the zebra crossing next to the prison entrance and safely traversing the road there - if you follow the signs that is. I'm still surprised they're not fixed yet - must be something major rather than a few fuses blown.
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I'm talking about the lights directly coming off Stone rd/a34 from the north end, tempory lights by the OAP home, then the next set of lights at the prison staff car park entrance, as they're now a merge with no lights at all.....coming back north from south is fine though.
 
Len's Lens

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Len's Lens said:
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I'm talking about the lights directly coming off Stone rd/a34 from the north end, tempory lights by the OAP home, then the next set of lights at the prison staff car park entrance, as they're now a merge with no lights at all.....coming back north from south is fine though.
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Yes, I know. Maybe they weren't there this evening, it was dark so difficult to spot them.
 
kyoto49

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DoggedWalker said:
Sorry to give you some bad news but many sets of traffic lights/pedestrian crossings don’t do that at all. Those ‘sensors’ that exist are often empty boxes to give the perception of being smart when they’re not smart at all and just change after a period of time.
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Yeah that's the issue isn't it, they make pedestrians wait and prioritise traffic. They need to prioritise pedestrians and stop traffic immediately, obviously allowing cars time to slow down etc
 
kyoto49

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DoggedWalker said:
Tell me you don’t have a commute without telling me you don’t have a commute.

OR

Tell me you’ve never driven through areas that have them without telling me you’ve never driven through areas that have them.
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Eh, I do commute, twice a week to Dudley. What's LTNs got to do with me commuting? I use the M6 and Black Country new road, why would I go near an LTN? Trunk routes are for traffic.

My sister lives in an LTN, its brilliant, the quality of life for the residents is a massive improvement. Peaceful, safe, families able to walk and cycle safely.

I'm not sure how 15 min neighbourhoods come in to this. They wouldn't affect my commute either?

I'm not sure of your point?
 
Mudgie

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Only applying for jobs in Stafford avoided the need for me to commute other than by cycling or walking, and for fifty years I've neither wasted time in traffic jams nor added to the town's congestion.
 
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some seem to have conveniently missed the part of the fifteen minutes cities causing the controversy. i.e. having restrictions placed on freedom of movement

People can drive freely around their own 15 minute city and can apply for a permit to drive out of and into other city zones, for up to 100 days per year. This equates to an average of two days per week.
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kyoto49

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Mudgie said:
Only applying for jobs in Stafford avoided the need for me to commute other than by cycling or walking, and for fifty years I've neither wasted time in traffic jams nor added to the town's congestion.
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Honestly I did everything I could to avoid the commute. Its the first time I've ever had to in my working life. Its all so pointless and such a waste of time, resources and my soul tbh
 
kyoto49

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cj1 said:
some seem to have conveniently missed the part of the fifteen minutes cities causing the controversy. i.e. having restrictions placed on freedom of movement
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If that is correct its a non starter isn't it? We haven't designed cities or towns with enough work locally :/
 
Sk84goal

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cj1 said:
some seem to have conveniently missed the part of the fifteen minutes cities causing the controversy. i.e. having restrictions placed on freedom of movement
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That’s because, as I highlighted earlier, they are misusing and abusing the term. The 15min City is a very simple concept, quote ‘ in which most daily necessities and services, such as work, shopping, education, health, and leisure, should be located within an easily reachable 15-minute walk or bike ride from any point in the city. This approach aims to reduce car dependency, promote healthy and sustainable living, and overall improve the quality of life for city dwellers.’ That’s it, that’s all, nothing else! If a city decided to barcode peoples foreheads and scan them in and out of their houses it is nothing to do with a 15 min city, it is to do with them misusing and abusing their power. It is not about restricting peoples choices its about giving them more choice, shall I drive or shall I walk/cycle, instead of, I've got to drive. It doesn't mean you have to work within 15 mins it means wouldn't it be nice if there were some jobs locally or a remote working hub you could connect into work from. It doesn't mean you have to use the local shops but that they are there if you wish to.
 
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proactive

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People can drive freely around their own 15 minute city and can apply for a permit to drive out of and into other city zones, for up to 100 days per year. This equates to an average of two days per week.
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@cj1 where did get this quote from please? It's a legitimate worry that people might have, so it would be interesting to know where it's from and find out more information.
 
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