Staffordshire Place

Jonah

Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
The yellow cladding has had to be rechecked after some fell off and nearly hit passers-by. The building has had to have fences put all around for safety.

Another #fail by Staffordshire County Council.
 

Withnail

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Wormella said:
I walked through Staffordshire Place on my way to work this morning, it's looking really nice...
I cycled through it on the night of the 7th October - and hereby lay claim to the title of the first to do so.

big-blue-wolf said:
The yellow cladding has had to be rechecked after some fell off and nearly hit passers-by.
I thought i had read about this, and was going to post the same, but looking through the E&S and Newsletter couldn't find the article in question. It is a tad worrying to say the least.
 

ExiledInStaffers

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big-blue-wolf said:
ExiledInStaffers said:
big-blue-wolf said:
Have you got any proof that the concrete balls didn't cost £587 each? If so, can we see it please.
Who cares if they did? You may have missed my point. I'm sure the cost quoted by Cllr Harris is correct. But they work as street furniture as well as ram-raid protection. If cost was the only factor then I am sure they could have put those nice concrete barricades that were shoved up in Airports post Glasgow terrorist attack. That would not be aesthetically pleasing though and improve the area. The sums involved - 40K. That barely pays the salary of a single middle manager at the Council.

If people are genuinely outraged at how much SCC spend on stuff, then really the focus needs to be on the ludicrous expenditure the Chief Executive spends on "Consultants". The very same consultants he often used at Essex. Who provide the same advice again - maybe he should have remembered it first time round. And even then, many departments at SCC are full of over-paid, underworked middle managers. However they can't get rid of them due to the Unions.

So really 40k on some bollards is neither here or there.
Neither here not there. What a crock.

£40k is a lot of money for stone balls. And £40k is two years salary for some of us (before being made redundant that is).

At a time when the County Council are putting people out of work, they shouldn't be wasting money on stone balls or as you say, consultants.
The reason I moved to Stafford was due to redundancy. I moved 100 miles to find work. The simple truth is the project cost something like 30 million quid. Therefore 40k really is inconsequential in the big picture. Comparing the cost of a building element to "two years salary" is emotive and frankly over simplifying how things work. It's a one off piece of capital expenditure.
 

ATJ

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big-blue-wolf said:
The yellow cladding has had to be rechecked after some fell off and nearly hit passers-by. The building has had to have fences put all around for safety.

Another #fail by Staffordshire County Council.
Fail by the contractor who built it, shurely?
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Volker Fitzpatrick signed it off in September

Apparently , one good rabbit punch will puncture the panels

I wont be the first to try it

I still think the building is a positive addition to the town, mainly for the light enhancing qualities its make up brings

There are some bargain basement priced commercial property sites in the town now thanks to this

Timing is everything - FAIL
 

basil

don't mention the blinds
John Marwood said:
Volker Fitzpatrick signed it off in September

Apparently , one good rabbit punch will puncture the panels

I wont be the first to try it

I still think the building is a positive addition to the town, mainly for the light enhancing qualities its make up brings

There are some bargain basement priced commercial property sites in the town now thanks to this

Timing is everything - FAIL
Indeed, 'The Green' is now under offer......
 

Lucy

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The Geen? I quote fancy the registry office myself, now to find £450,000.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Martin street would make great flats, decent old buildings in the middle of town on a pedestrianised street. If they did the same sort of thing as the oval they'd make a mint too.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Not my problem, I don't drive ;)

They are near the station, I'd expect a lot of them to be commuters anyway. Otherwise, tough, lots of places have rubbish parking.
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Lucy said:
The Geen? I quote fancy the registry office myself, now to find £450,000.
Register Office or Registration Office,.never Registry

Writes a man who canna spell muchatall..
 

Jonah

Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
ExiledInStaffers said:
big-blue-wolf said:
ExiledInStaffers said:
Who cares if they did? You may have missed my point. I'm sure the cost quoted by Cllr Harris is correct. But they work as street furniture as well as ram-raid protection. If cost was the only factor then I am sure they could have put those nice concrete barricades that were shoved up in Airports post Glasgow terrorist attack. That would not be aesthetically pleasing though and improve the area. The sums involved - 40K. That barely pays the salary of a single middle manager at the Council.

If people are genuinely outraged at how much SCC spend on stuff, then really the focus needs to be on the ludicrous expenditure the Chief Executive spends on "Consultants". The very same consultants he often used at Essex. Who provide the same advice again - maybe he should have remembered it first time round. And even then, many departments at SCC are full of over-paid, underworked middle managers. However they can't get rid of them due to the Unions.

So really 40k on some bollards is neither here or there.
Neither here not there. What a crock.

£40k is a lot of money for stone balls. And £40k is two years salary for some of us (before being made redundant that is).

At a time when the County Council are putting people out of work, they shouldn't be wasting money on stone balls or as you say, consultants.
The reason I moved to Stafford was due to redundancy. I moved 100 miles to find work. The simple truth is the project cost something like 30 million quid. Therefore 40k really is inconsequential in the big picture. Comparing the cost of a building element to "two years salary" is emotive and frankly over simplifying how things work. It's a one off piece of capital expenditure.
But I know people who are being made redundant by Staffordshire County Council and spending £40k on stone balls isn't going down well with them.

I understand what you are saying about a one off piece of capital expenditure but SCC are supposed to get "best value" with everything they buy and personally I don't think spending £40k on stone balls to be "best value".
 

Jonah

Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
ATJ said:
big-blue-wolf said:
The yellow cladding has had to be rechecked after some fell off and nearly hit passers-by. The building has had to have fences put all around for safety.

Another #fail by Staffordshire County Council.
Fail by the contractor who built it, shurely?
Of course but why pass up the opportunity to have a dig at SCC ;)
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
TBH the stone cladding isn't best value, neither is the air con. Why didn't they just use breezeblocks and have done with it, they can open a window if they get warm.
 

henryscat

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As I understand, there is no air conditioning in the building.

Can't imagine breeze blocks having a particularly appealling visual appearance.
 

henryscat

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Found the reference to no aircon:

http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/yourcouncil/valueformoney/together/tipping/tippingstreet.aspx
 
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