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The Big Benefits & Employment Thread
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shoes
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I find it pretty offensive that you state you don't care. I don't know Gramaisc personally and I hope he won't take offence at my reckoning that he is on of our older generation posters. Oh yeah that generation who rebuilt a country after a war, possibly even defended our country during it, worked hard all their lives and never asked for anything in return. Of course his existance shouldn't be supported by the government, and yours should. Because you're such a valued member of society.
Send me your bloody CV, I'll tart it up and you can start sending it out. As for covering letters, you HAVE to send them with CVs it nothing to do with new deal, and you're intelligent and articulate enough to sell yourself, so get too it.
Send me your bloody CV, I'll tart it up and you can start sending it out. As for covering letters, you HAVE to send them with CVs it nothing to do with new deal, and you're intelligent and articulate enough to sell yourself, so get too it.
djstaffs
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Thank you tek, wish you had said that couple days ago instead of letting me do all that typingtek-monkey said:
You are quire right, very simply put, but qute right.
lol i did get a certain de ja vue feeling this morning when replying but at least next time (if there is a next time) i can just cut and paste me replies.tek-monkey said:
djstaffs
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lol not just pretending and only paid to care for 37.5 hours a week. Outside of that its totally voluntary and genuine, but will accept payments if you insist!Gramaisc said:You don't count. You're a nurse and you get paid to 'care'. And I know you're just pretending.
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
A question for the 'older generation' here. Do you remember what benefits there were 30 years ago? Pretty much **** all! And yet people survived, sure they lived very frugaly(?) but they didn't starve. Whilst NuLabia helped a LOT of struggling parents who were stuck in the work/childcare trap (albeit too late for us), they also gave a generation of spongers the idea that it was OK to do nothing. Dole money used to be a pittance, housing benefit was paid straight to your landlord so you never saw it. And people still lived, my mum brought up 4 kids like this after my father did one. It wasn't fun, but why should it be? Kids today don't know they're born!
Even in the star trek like utopia where money no longer exists, peoples social standing is based upon respect.
Even in the star trek like utopia where money no longer exists, peoples social standing is based upon respect.
Gramaisc
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Direct benefits were probably a bit lower, but a large number of people got stuff they don't get now. Dentistry was virtually free, give the man a fiver now and then, maybe. Eye tests and a good amount towards the glasses were covered. A prescription was 20p, not £7:00, or whatever it is now. It's all swings and roundabouts. We're giving each new-born £250 for a trust-fund and 60% end up in default accounts because people can't even be bothered to open one themselves. I could go on, but I'm sure somebody else will....
djstaffs
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And again for the second time today i have to agree with you. Had similar experience as a kid.tek-monkey said:
Kids today grow up in a culture where working and saving doesnt exsist. You want it you go out and have it any which way fair or foul. And the justification? "I want my child to have what i didnt as a kid" Thats lovely but who pays for it? It really grates when i drive past people i know dont work and i am in my old rusting car while they have one or two new cars parked in front of their social housing home with their kids running around kitted out in brand named clothes and trainers while i am in Tesco clothes and my child in hand me downs and car boot bargains. Dont get me wrong nothing worng in what i or my child is wearing, point being its what i can afford. How do the non-workers i am driving past afford that clobber?
tek-monkey
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Ah yes, free dentistry. Shame our dentist was a sadist 
djstaffs
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Oh alright if i must.....Gramaisc said:
They certainly do and you dont have to apply for it, it just comes to you. And they dont just get it once. When they get a little older they get another £250 but for families on low income and benefits they get even more. But why? i dont understand quite why its done like that. Now if it was that money to be invested to help towards university fees or a house deposit then great. But its not. The child gets it then uses and abuses it anywhich way.Gramaisc said:
shoes
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This is something which has always make me wonder how they afford it too. I have wondered into a pub on a day off before and seen it full of tracksuit clad, shaven headded tattooed people with lazy common as sh*t accents who don't pronounce their T's and every second word is F**k. How do they afford that!?!?djstaffs said:
Hmmm I'm going to fire up excel, I have an idea.
djstaffs
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EEKS i am from birmingham, probably the worst accent in the world am am often told off for dropping my t's lol also my head is (almost)shaven....dont have tatoos though (or track suit except when at the gym) lolshoes said:
Intriguing, want to know more now lolshoes said:
Wookie
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Channel 4, 9pm, tonight:
"Benefit Busters
With Britain now paying out more in benefits than it raises in income tax, the Government is trying to revolutionise the welfare system. This programme follows Hayley Taylor as she runs a six-week course designed to help single mothers gain the skills and confidence needed to return to work, and convince them that they will be better off doing so."
Taken from TVGuide. I think it's a series, too.
"Benefit Busters
With Britain now paying out more in benefits than it raises in income tax, the Government is trying to revolutionise the welfare system. This programme follows Hayley Taylor as she runs a six-week course designed to help single mothers gain the skills and confidence needed to return to work, and convince them that they will be better off doing so."
Taken from TVGuide. I think it's a series, too.
shoes
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Ok so taking into account income tax, NI, council tax, JSA, housing benefit, prescription at an average of 1 per month the following graph shows that until you are earning over £6 per hour your are better off on benefits. Basically the national minimum wage is a joke and so are benefits.
This is for a single man living alone aged 25 or over. I shudder to think what would happen if I add in a child or three.
X axis is hourly rate, Y axis is yearly income after tax, NI and council tax, taking into consideration the £6,475 you would get tax free of course.
This is for a single man living alone aged 25 or over. I shudder to think what would happen if I add in a child or three.
X axis is hourly rate, Y axis is yearly income after tax, NI and council tax, taking into consideration the £6,475 you would get tax free of course.
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
At least we have a min wage, I used to know people working for a quid an hour when I was 16!
Still, what is min wage nowadays? About £215 pre tax or so by my guesstimate, or 11k, on a standard working week. I couldn't live on that without house sharing, hell I'm on double that and have no savings. I do like to spend though
Still, what is min wage nowadays? About £215 pre tax or so by my guesstimate, or 11k, on a standard working week. I couldn't live on that without house sharing, hell I'm on double that and have no savings. I do like to spend though
shoes
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Yeah but when you were 16 a pound an hour was an executive salarytek-monkey said:At least we have a min wage, I used to know people working for a quid an hour when I was 16!
Still, what is min wage nowadays? About £215 pre tax or so by my guesstimate, or 11k, on a standard working week. I couldn't live on that without house sharing, hell I'm on double that and have no savings. I do like to spend though