There is no God?

[db]

there is no god. Fact.

wow, i can't wait to see this categorical evidence you have that proves there is no god.. it will save a lot of people a lot of heartache!



Admin edit: moved post to new thread

 

[shoes]

War
Crime
Disease
Famine
Wasps
Speed Cameras
Tom Jones
The USA

How's that for a start?

 

[db]

War
Crime
Disease
Famine
Wasps
Speed Cameras
Tom Jones
The USA

How's that for a start?

i'm not sure you understand the concept of proof..

 

[shoes]

I do that was tongue in cheek. Lets be honest though, what are the chances of there being a 'god'?

I'd say little to none and I'm leaning towards none. I haven't seen a single scrap of evidence to suggest that there is a god other than various poorly written and self condeming scriptures written 100s - 1000s of years ago by paranoid folk who had no understanding of the world or the universe compared to today.

 

[tek-monkey]

There is no probably about it, there is no god. Fact. There are unexplained events and unanswered questions yes. Does this mean turning to blind faith? Only if you don't want to try and understand science.

Whilst I agree with the sentiment, this statement goes against scientific principles. Just bevause you can't prove something exists does not prove its non existence.

 

[tek-monkey]

Bah, damn my job getting in the way of the forum. Typed that straight after shoes comment.....

 

[shoes]

No thats fair enough but just because I can't prove something or don't understand it doesn't mean I should make something up does it? Thats just ludicrus.

 

[ToriRat]

I agree wholeheartedly with the Wasps thing.
And slugs...

 

[Markerat]

There may be no god, i really cant call it either way to be honest

There is always Monkey....

In the worlds before monkey, primal chaos reigned.

Heavens sought order. But the phoenix can fly only when its feathers are grown.

The four worlds formed again and yet again, as endless eons wheeled and passed.

Time and the pure essence of Heaven, the moisture of the Earth, the powers of the Sun and the Moon all worked upon a certain rock, old as creation.

And it became magically fertile. That first egg was named "Thought". Tathagata Buddha, the Father Buddha, said, "With our thoughts, we make the World".

Elemental forces caused the egg to hatch. From it came a stone monkey The nature of monkey was irrepressible!

Ok for those of you who now think i am bat shit bonkers or too young to remember

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5iUMWy4hqAg

Enjoy kids !

 

[db]

No thats fair enough but just because I can't prove something or don't understand it doesn't mean I should make something up does it? Thats just ludicrus.

but people who believe in god aren't just making something up, are they? they are putting their faith in widely accepted beliefs and dogma, practised by millions worldwide..

whether they are correct or not, it's a million miles away from saying "i can't prove god doesn't exist, therefore i will start believing in a celestial teapot which i have just made up."

 

[Markerat]

What about david 'the hoff' hasselehoff. He is a sex god surely. There are just two many pictures of him being cool and sexy for any other explanation to be true

http://gallery.roadbikereview.com/data/roadbike/500/Hasselhoff.jpg

http://www.albany.edu/~nd7619/images/david-hasselhoff-with-puppies%20copy.jpg

 

[shoes]

whether they are correct or not, it's a million miles away from saying "i can't prove god doesn't exist, therefore i will start believing in a celestial teapot which i have just made up."

No it isn't, it's exactly that. Just because millions of people share a common view doesn't make it right. Essentially they’re just believing something which someone else made up because they think (for reasons which I doubt I will ever understand) is a perfectly rational and feasible explanation to life.

 

[tek-monkey]

Although we believe what scientists tell us, I couldn't prove 1% of what I know. I learnt it parrot fashion, OK I understand the concepts but my entire belief structure as it were is based on what others tell me. The only essential difference is I will listen to all, and if someone comes up with a more plausible explanation I shall believe that.

I can't believe as I require proof, which cannot be provided at present.
They believe so proof is irrelevant, unless you can prove them wrong.

 

[Gramaisc]

http://gallery.roadbikereview.com/data/roadbike/500/Hasselhoff.jpg

How disturbing! I'm never going to wash my hands again!

 

[db]

whether they are correct or not, it's a million miles away from saying "i can't prove god doesn't exist, therefore i will start believing in a celestial teapot which i have just made up."

No it isn't, it's exactly that. Just because millions of people share a common view doesn't make it right. Essentially they’re just believing something which someone else made up because they think (for reasons which I doubt I will ever understand) is a perfectly rational and feasible explanation to life.

no, it's not.. if you can't see the difference between something 1 person believes vs. something 6 billion people believe then i'm not sure how else to explain it to you..

 

[tek-monkey]

I can see what he means, in that the factual truth in the belief is about the same. Just because more people believe in something does not change the lack of evidence. The only difference between a religion and a cult is the number of followers.

 

[shoes]

All it means is that 6 million people are a deluded as the person with blind faith in an unprovable creator and higher being.


Edit - came out wrong!

 

[Monquey]

Whilst it's impossible to say that there categorically is no God, it's not impossible to say that rationally speaking, after evaluating all evidence for (none) and against (plenty), the chances of there being a God are so slim they are negligible.

Which is better that the whole 'there's probably no God' bollox recently plastered over the buses in London.

It's the same as saying there is definitely 100% no Santa Claus. I'm really very sure, as are most sane and rational adults, that there is no Santa Claus. But there is a slender possibility, so small it's imeasurable that there IS a Santa. In which case, I can't say that there is definitely no Santa.

Apologies to any small children reading this.

 

[shoes]

I agree that its impossible to prove there is no god, and that the chances are slim, but common sense tells you that there isn't a god. Not as we interpret it anyway.

If there is actually a god I think we're way off the mark and actually he's closer to Satan than many people think. More likely though is he/she/it is as bona fide as a 3 bob note.

Either way dedicating your life to worshipping this non entity is absurd, although on the plus side it keeps the supermarket empty and quiet on Sunday morning when I need alka seltza

 

[db]

All it means is that 6 million people are a deluded as the person with blind faith in an unprovable creator and higher being.

i said 6 billion

Either way dedicating your life to worshipping this non entity is absurd

i agree, however no-one mentioned worship.. i believe in god, but i don't worship anyone/anything or subscribe to any particular religion.. 88% of the world's population believe in god, but that doesn't mean they are necessarily religious..