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shoes
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along with lighting that dims itself based on daylight and also works out such things as how to best fit out a room with lights, for example it may work out better for you to have more lights dimmed at 75% than fewer at 100% as running at 75% uses 50% less power, using less electricity thus saving money and carbon.Lunar Scorpion said:
Lunar Scorpion
Anarchy in the UK
Normally, my response would be that you are not sustaining my existence in any way, shape or form - except for the fact that you pay money into a system (that I had no part in designing and I don't have a say in), which pays money out to many millions of people as well as paying for the healthcare, education, etc. that everyone is free to enjoy.shoes said:
However, in light of your recent posts specifically mentioning me in a derogatory manner (when I don't have kids and I currently do at least 10 hours unpaid work a week, amongst other things) - I couldn't care less if I was taking that money directly from your wallet, because I would rather take directly from a **** than most of my family, friends and the rest of the population who haven't decided to write me off on the basis that I need money to meet my basic physiological needs in order to survive and an (actually very tiny) amount of that comes out of what they are paid.
From the people at the organisation I volunteer for I have received a 'Thank You' card, a gift voucher and a bag of Thorton's chocolates, and on another occasion a bag of Celebrations for a specific task with a tight deadline. On my birthday I recieved a card signed by everyone, a cake (with candles and the dreaded song!) and some houseplants for my bedsit. I also received a birthday card from the team at my work placement. Now tell me I'm a waste of space, you fooking moron...
Lunar Scorpion
Anarchy in the UK
And WTF this has to do with the thread title I will never know... At least it wasn't me who derailed!
shoes
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Errr... you're a waste of space.
There, I did it! Do I get a free box of celebrations too or did I miss the deadline?
EDIT: Why not do 10 hours of PAID work instead, or is the responsibility of actually having performance measured too much for your feeble face to handle?
There, I did it! Do I get a free box of celebrations too or did I miss the deadline?
EDIT: Why not do 10 hours of PAID work instead, or is the responsibility of actually having performance measured too much for your feeble face to handle?
Lunar Scorpion
Anarchy in the UK
Paid work is not superior. Maybe if I could do 10 hours paid work and it was worth my while financially then I might consider it. As it happens, if I am going to do paid work then it will be 16 hours or more because that is what teh DWP class as full-time work, meaning that I will no longer be claiming JSA - and depending on the hourly rate I will actually be paying NI and tax, then you and your oversized ego can STFU for once.shoes said:
You clearly have never heard of self-fulfilling prophecy. Fortunately, I am immune to it when it comes from other people - especially those whom I regard as lower than a cheap plastic picnic fork when broken.
shoes
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I think you'll find it is superior, thats what its paid for... And again the more valueble the work you are doing the more is paid for it... By the same token a tag heuer watch is superior to a swatch and the price reflects this...
as for me and my oversized ego shutting up when you get a job, well thats about as likely as the pope converting to islam before curing cancer in a freefall jump for an african AIDS charity. primarily because you're a useless waste of skin and partly because my ego is well deserved and unlikely to be beaten back by you forcing yourself to stack shelves for 16 hours a week in lidl before quitting due to some made up mental health issue...
as for me and my oversized ego shutting up when you get a job, well thats about as likely as the pope converting to islam before curing cancer in a freefall jump for an african AIDS charity. primarily because you're a useless waste of skin and partly because my ego is well deserved and unlikely to be beaten back by you forcing yourself to stack shelves for 16 hours a week in lidl before quitting due to some made up mental health issue...
darben
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I dunno, I still think it could work, you could go about fufilling your career, Lunar could continue her lot of good work charity work thus upping your status into the bargain, it could be a very traditional upper working class set up. Everyone wins!
Sorry I meant upper middle class, must have been a freudian slip!
Sorry I meant upper middle class, must have been a freudian slip!
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
Can't be bothered to join the fun, but do agree with shoes on not having a relationship with someone who is happy not to work. Had GFs in the past that expect the earth, not worth the hassle. One earnt more than me yet expected me to pay for everything, sod that! If they can't at least try to pay their own way I'd not go near them, I don't expect 50/50 if they don't earn what I do but I expect them to at least try to pay towards stuff we do. I suppose I enjoy things nowadays that cost more than you can afford on a giro, and wouldn't want to stop doing that nor subsidise someone else. I didn't go through 7 years of extra education to carry on living on super noodles!
It has been posited before: http://www.staffordforum.com/viewtopic.php?pid=36573#p36573darben said:
Lunar is right. Once again, let's draw a line under all this in this thread, and keep all discussion to Trade Unions.Lunar Scorpion said:
shoes
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Back on topic I see the dipshit postal workers who have all of the long term foresight of a smackhead are planning on shutting christmas down. Because the bussiest time of the year for the postal service is clearly the time to strike in order to secure funds for pay rises and job security. You're all gonna get made redundad, do dah, dah.
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
There are 2 solutions here:
1) Only deliver mail posted in RM boxes, or collected by RM vans. Tell TNT et al to deliver their own frigging mail.
2) Keep striking, annoy everyone, close down the mail system completely then let TNT have the whole lot.
I can't see another way, they cannot operate as they are so something has to give.
1) Only deliver mail posted in RM boxes, or collected by RM vans. Tell TNT et al to deliver their own frigging mail.
2) Keep striking, annoy everyone, close down the mail system completely then let TNT have the whole lot.
I can't see another way, they cannot operate as they are so something has to give.
Gramaisc
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Tell as many people and organisations as you can think of. It is often surprising how thick some thieves are....Lunar Scorpion said:
Rikki
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My Dads a postman and from what he said earlier he dosn't expect the strike to ever actually happen
I'll be honest and say alot of what my Dads said to me went totally over my head as there was just too much to take in at the time. But I do know as far as he's concerned it's not about money, but rather job conditions/security and managment policy.
The way I see it whether you agree with the strike or not were always going to need a postal service. Letters are not going to be totally replaced by email for along time yet if ever and any company delivering them is going to find it hard to make money on them alone. Parcels are where the money is and if run well the RM is surely in a position where it can undercut all it's competitors in parcel delivery do the letters aswell and still make enough money (it made £321m last year) to ultimatley keep everyone happy.
Apparently they're not allowed to legally. TNT etc (maybe not TNT but others) take parcels sort them and deliver them to the post office to make the actuall delivery, which they may not make money on.tek-monkey said:
Remember them changing the name a few years ago? Well from what I remember/have been told part of the reason was other companies were being allowed to compete with royal mail. None of them did because of the cost of emplying all the people required and setting up the infrastructure.tek-monkey said:
I'll be honest and say alot of what my Dads said to me went totally over my head as there was just too much to take in at the time. But I do know as far as he's concerned it's not about money, but rather job conditions/security and managment policy.
The way I see it whether you agree with the strike or not were always going to need a postal service. Letters are not going to be totally replaced by email for along time yet if ever and any company delivering them is going to find it hard to make money on them alone. Parcels are where the money is and if run well the RM is surely in a position where it can undercut all it's competitors in parcel delivery do the letters aswell and still make enough money (it made £321m last year) to ultimatley keep everyone happy.
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
I agree entirely, the actual workers at RM are getting shafted because of the stupidly cheap agreement RM have to deliver the other tossers mail. The price they pay does not reflect the cost, they get a much higher margin than RM can by making RM do all the leg work.
Whoever decided the price RM must deliver a competitors mail for, is the person who shafted the postal staff. Cutbacks are needed due to loss of profit, a lot of this is lost dues to RM actually being forced to run the innefective mail routes, while private firms take the lucrative ones. Are RM even allowed to charge different prices for different people, like TNT do?
Whoever decided the price RM must deliver a competitors mail for, is the person who shafted the postal staff. Cutbacks are needed due to loss of profit, a lot of this is lost dues to RM actually being forced to run the innefective mail routes, while private firms take the lucrative ones. Are RM even allowed to charge different prices for different people, like TNT do?