After the love has gone......

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cj1

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hop said:
I don't know planet you are living on but the French are saying there will be no passporting rights for Financial services firms to trade freely across the EU. Germany and France have a lot to gain from taking financial services away from the UK.
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negotiations have not taken place yet. so anything said right now need to be taken with a large pinch of salt. things which are said to be impossible now may well become possible before brexit.
 
tek-monkey

tek-monkey

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cj1 said:
negotiations have not taken place yet. so anything said right now need to be taken with a large pinch of salt. things which are said to be impossible now may well become possible before brexit.
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I believe the French and Germans have said they won't start negotiations until we invoke article 50, and May has said she wants to wait until after Christmas to do that if she wins, so we have 6 months of uncertainty which will not be kind to us. I agree we don't know what will happen, but I 100% believe that the EU being kind to us will do more damage to them than imposing trade tariffs. If we get to stop migration and paying but still access the market everyone will want to, and then there is no EU to trade with at all, and then we're back to dealing with every country individually. The EU will not survive doing us a favour, punishing us for leaving will keep others in.
 
Laurie61

Laurie61

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The free movement of people within the EU has been considered a prerequisite for membership until now. I don’t believe it will remain so, I think the EU may need to change this themselves without input from UK. There are elections due in France and Germany coming up and they have significant minorities who are not happy with the arrangement. It may be decided to head off a call for referendum in these countries with a change to controlled movement. There are good reasons for doing this, what happens to country’s that have significant numbers of their young health people leave? Would you want to create economic catastrophe in their home land so we can prosper? At the moment we have put Isaac Newton in the driving seat regards immigration numbers, whether its 100,000 or 1,000,000 makes no difference, the rules say no control. This cannot be sensible economic practice for us or anybody else.
 
hop

hop

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cj1 said:
negotiations have not taken place yet. so anything said right now need to be taken with a large pinch of salt. things which are said to be impossible now may well become possible before brexit.
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Do you have much understanding of the cut throat world of business and politics ?

Its amazing how all of a sudden we have all these people with great insight into the world of business and politics. Yet most of these people do not have the guts or courage to put their own assets on the line and engage in business and instead are employed by others.

I find it incredulous to see idiots posting so many figures when they speak for themselves.

You clearly believe you have a lot share about such matters. In which case you must be the owner of a business and employ lots of people, for whom you have a duty of care ? I suspect not, I suspect you don't have the courage to set up in business and risk your own capital, instead you seek an easy life and are employed by someone. No doubt you work in the public sector and have no idea about what life is really about.
 
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Gramaisc

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Austrians to get a second go at electing a far-right head of state.



Didn't they end up with one a while back, too?
 
Gramaisc

Gramaisc

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proactive said:
No. I think that if you ask Ken Livingstone, he'll be able to demonstrate what an enlightened, liberal and tolerant benefactor he actually was.
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Wasn't he an interior decorator with a particular penchant for living rooms?



Fairly sure he was a painter, anyway.

I have a print of one.

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citricsquid

citricsquid

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Laurie61 said:
The free movement of people within the EU has been considered a prerequisite for membership until now. I don’t believe it will remain so, I think the EU may need to change this themselves without input from UK. There are elections due in France and Germany coming up and they have significant minorities who are not happy with the arrangement.
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I read an interesting article about that, about the sentiment towards the EU in other countries, it echo's what you're saying: https://medium.com/@octskyward/ok-what-now-e3f64d38f7
 
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Roland

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hop said:
Do you have much understanding of the cut throat world of business and politics ?

Its amazing how all of a sudden we have all these people with great insight into the world of business and politics. Yet most of these people do not have the guts or courage to put their own assets on the line and engage in business and instead are employed by others.

I find it incredulous to see idiots posting so many figures when they speak for themselves.

You clearly believe you have a lot share about such matters. In which case you must be the owner of a business and employ lots of people, for whom you have a duty of care ? I suspect not, I suspect you don't have the courage to set up in business and risk your own capital, instead you seek an easy life and are employed by someone. No doubt you work in the public sector and have no idea about what life is really about.
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You really sound like a very unpleasant bitter and twisted person and no I don't work for the council and havn't been employed since about 1995!
 
Withnail

Withnail

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hop said:
At the moment nothing has changed and Sadiq Khan is trying his damnedest to ensure that financial passporting agreements are in place.
The Foreign Exchange business is mainly run out of London. FX is $2 trillion a year business most of it trading in Euros. At the moment due to having a passport to trade any European product this can be run form London..
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I rather wanted to 'quote' something you must've said elsewhere - something to do with this really being a 'Leave', dismissing the machinations of those that would ignore the result, there was a 99%+ acceptance that it will be so, that sort of thing - but can't find it.

I'm obviously disappointed with the way things have turned out, but as this thread is more about the 'what now?' side of things, answer me this...

How would you turn your frown upside down?

I don't see how we can politically square this circle - however simple the majority, it must be massaged to a mandate.

We're Out.

What now?
 
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