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ASDA introducing Pay and display parking
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Jonah
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proactive
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I believe the subject of parking charges notices on private land has been clarified by the supreme court. See Beavis vs Parking Eye. http://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/parkingeye-vs-beavis/
Executive summary: It is enforceable now.
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I see where you are coming from but it is not true I am afraid.
it could be questioned free parking= means more people, potentially means more shops ?? The revenue shops bring are in business rates, so would free parking would bring significant increase in footfall bringing in X amount of new shops paying business rates to cover car parks revenue losses....I doubt it. Let alone you may find lack of turnover of cars on particular car parks burdens local shops anyway. No good having car park spaces in front of your shop for 6 hours and nobody spending money on you but are elsewhere.
Business rates are also a government crock of the local economy. The council acts as the collection agent and all monies are passed to government. The council get a % back up to 18 months later...so local councils are hardly winners when it comes to rates. SBC don't own any shops to my knowledge so rent is not an income stream.
I agree with others that councils cannot afford to lose income. I think free parking has and should have place, but it needs thought and managing. But the latter would cost
I have to agree with earlier posts about the charges being mainly a money making excercise. If Asda were really concerned about making more spaces available for their customers why are they charging less than the council carparks? Surely that's encouraging non customers to park there. Most council carparks in that area charge on Sundays now.
I'd have no problem being charged a fiver to park if it was refunded at the checkout (not that I shop there anyway)
The carparks around the back is just an extension to the customer's parking, we used it regularly until recently.
I'd have no problem being charged a fiver to park if it was refunded at the checkout (not that I shop there anyway)
The carparks around the back is just an extension to the customer's parking, we used it regularly until recently.
tek-monkey
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I think its more a case of thinking lets get something off the freeloaders, better than nothing? They'll monitor free spaces vs store attendance and try to balance it to maximise store presence whilst charging as much as they can get away with for those not shopping. I'd start low too, its still profit but ultimately you don't want to scare off people that could pay to park in spaces you don't actually have shoppers for.
Really?
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I am amazed that people seem shocked that Asda are a profit making company - why shouldn't they make best use of their land and assets to generate as much profit as possible? If it were my land I'd certainly want an income from it - after all they are paying business rates and with a rateable value of £1.7 million, that's a lot of money for nothing in return.
wmrcomputers
Stafford PC & laptop repair specialist
It's the trade-off that I find shocking. £1 revenue for a parking space might be good income, but if customers start finding it harder than ever to find a space and drive off to Tesco or wherever then it's not good business. By renting parking spaces at £1 for other businesses customers to use could COST them money. If you owned Asda and it's car park, would you prefer a car park 50% empty but with 30% of those people shopping in your store, or 95% full but only 15% shopping in your store?
A car park is a customer privilege. I have no problem whatsoever with them making a charge for the car park AS THEY CLAIMED to be interest of their own customers. My problem is the fact that they are undercutting other nearby parking charges which will encourage more people to use it despite going off elsewhere. This is clearly NOT in the best interest of their own customers. Their claim is therefore poppycock!
c0tt0nt0p
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I'm thinking part of it is to restrict the people who work at riverside and park at asda.....
tek-monkey
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But won't it still encourage less people than when it was free?
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Based on your maths- if the car park holds 300 cars and is 50% full - 30% of 150 = 45 customers. . If its 95% full - 30% of 285 is 85 customers, so your argument is flawed.
A very old saying in Retail used to be "people shop in Sainsburys because people shop in Sainsburys" - they want car parks to be as full as possible and the very few times people drive out is worth the benefit gained. Asda are not stupid, they will know how much each car park space is worth to them per minute based on time spent parked and spend per customer. Making it cheaper than everywhere else will take people from Tesco and Sainsburys, not drive people to them.
...and as it took me almost twenty minutes to get from the TK Maxx Car Park entrance to the entrance of the Tesco Car Park last night, I doubt they are too worried about Tesco. It's a shocking part of Stafford to drive around. If you want to get to the Station it is actually much quicker to go past Asda and Sainsburys. I dislike Asda but I hate sitting in traffic more.
wmrcomputers
Stafford PC & laptop repair specialist
It's hard to say. With the previous system it was free but said to be for customer use only. Now it's cheap, but is freely useable by anyone. I personally know people that would only have parked there before if they were going to do some shopping there and were too honest to abuse it for any other town visit. Those people will now happily pay the £1 as they aren't doing anything wrong.
Your maths response to wmrcomputers argument is flawed. It's 15% of 285, which is 42.75, so it would be the preferred option - but only just.
staffordjas
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I was going to stop off quicky at Asda on the way from dropping hubby off at work this morning. Only wanted a bottle of ketchup for our breakfasts , before shooting off back down the motorway, then remembered the parking charge which I couldn't have claimed back with only spending a bit....... Co-op got that purchase this morning!
I usually end up popping in for one item and ending up with more while I'm there, so Asda not only lost out on a sale of ketchup but potentially more.
I usually end up popping in for one item and ending up with more while I'm there, so Asda not only lost out on a sale of ketchup but potentially more.