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Castletown Parking
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Gramaisc
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Perhaps parking places could be reserved by placing a towel on them. A simple solution to what seems to be a complex and time-consuming problem.
Mr X
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gilbert grape
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"Cabinet member for highways Mike Maryon said the council could not run the scheme without the support of residents.
He said: “The pricing for permits and one-off set-up cost are not set in stone but have been based on what it is expected to cost the council to set up the scheme and the subsequent enforcement. The highways department has a limited budget and cannot divert additional funding to residents’ schemes at the expense of the wider taxpayer.”
So, about £10k from the residents paying a set up fee is expected is it? Then, permit fees on top of that? Do the maths......
Add to that the money being paid in fines by residents who get punished by the robots who stalk our streets and its a profit making scheme rather than purely control of an area.
When somebody can get a ticket while they're parked two foot over the yellow lines while inside a house organising a parents funeral, but people can rat run through a one way street and its fine, I think it's totally immoral the way things are handled!
If residents are going to be charged we need some constistency and common sense. I very rarely see any!
He said: “The pricing for permits and one-off set-up cost are not set in stone but have been based on what it is expected to cost the council to set up the scheme and the subsequent enforcement. The highways department has a limited budget and cannot divert additional funding to residents’ schemes at the expense of the wider taxpayer.”
So, about £10k from the residents paying a set up fee is expected is it? Then, permit fees on top of that? Do the maths......
Add to that the money being paid in fines by residents who get punished by the robots who stalk our streets and its a profit making scheme rather than purely control of an area.
When somebody can get a ticket while they're parked two foot over the yellow lines while inside a house organising a parents funeral, but people can rat run through a one way street and its fine, I think it's totally immoral the way things are handled!
If residents are going to be charged we need some constistency and common sense. I very rarely see any!
Mr X
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£50 might seem a lot, but this equates to 96p per week - what would 96p buy you? If you lived further out of the town, 96p only buys you 1-2 hours on a public car park, but the 96p in Castletown gives you town centre parking 24/7!
The council may be getting quite a high income from the charges, but it has got to be enforced properly otherwise there is no point in the scheme. Traffic wardens cost money and somebody has got to pay for them!
Also remember that the roads do not belong to the residents, but to the council. The council can choose to do whatever they want with the roads. If they had reason to do it, they could put double yellow lines along every metre of road, or they could make it chargable parking with coin-fed meters. I think that the scheme is actually a reasonable amount of money considering that parking should become much easier in the area. That said, if I lived in Castletown then I would probably want the cost reducing too - it's what most people would want!
The council may be getting quite a high income from the charges, but it has got to be enforced properly otherwise there is no point in the scheme. Traffic wardens cost money and somebody has got to pay for them!
Also remember that the roads do not belong to the residents, but to the council. The council can choose to do whatever they want with the roads. If they had reason to do it, they could put double yellow lines along every metre of road, or they could make it chargable parking with coin-fed meters. I think that the scheme is actually a reasonable amount of money considering that parking should become much easier in the area. That said, if I lived in Castletown then I would probably want the cost reducing too - it's what most people would want!
gilbert grape
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I think if i'd wanted to pay for the honour to park outside my own house i would've got a bigger mortgage and bought a house witha drive. Residents are now going to have to pay for these permits but still wont have 24/7 protection. There are time limits so we dont get the luxuries you might expect. Permits are for daytime between certain hours as well as part of the weekend so its far from 24/7.
tek-monkey
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Are the permits for the same timeframe that the council car parks are monitored? If so it should help a lot, as many people would just use Sainsburys/Wilkos etc. rather than try to park outside somebodies place in Castletown?
If you wont join the scheme, I assume you are then banned from parking in Castletown at all during restricted hours?
If you wont join the scheme, I assume you are then banned from parking in Castletown at all during restricted hours?
My Name is URL
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I would imagine it would be "permit holders only" between say 4:30pm and 8:30am..... If the streets around there are empty around there during the day then anyone who wants to should be able to park there. Its only at night when you can't park near your house should the "permit only" situation be in operation IMHO.tek-monkey said:
My Name is URL
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But instead you chose a house with "free for all" parking outside and saved the cash..... so why moan now.... either campaign against the residents parking permit situation or pay up and reap the benefits... don't expect it for free.gilbert grape said:
shoes
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If you can afford to do this then why didn't you? If it was a question of drive or no drive, money no object then its a no brainer.gilbert grape said:
Planning on making good use of my driveway this summer - going to have a BBQ on it and sell burgers to pissed people leaving the morris man
gilbert grape
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If I've lived round here all my life why should I move? Anybody who lives in the area "moans" about the situation, even non-drivers!gk141054 said:
I expect free & fair treatment, as everybody should have. I also want consistency and when you get booked while visiting your Father in the same area whilst sorting your Mums funeral(parked for maybe two hours), then some muppett dumps a big charabang in exactly the same spot a week later and leaves it all day without a ticket, you have every right to be hacked off!!! There's rules but no consistency and common sense. If you live outside the area and you sit in judgement of folks round here, thats your choice. You obviously dont know all the facts and dont have to put up with selfish inconsiderate people.
gilbert grape
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I didnt say I could actually afford a bigger mortgage, I'd just have to dig myself deeper into debt. Living near your parents where you can have your own independence and still be there to help....now thats a no brainer!shoes said:If you can afford to do this then why didn't you? If it was a question of drive or no drive, money no object then its a no brainer.gilbert grape said:
Planning on making good use of my driveway this summer - going to have a BBQ on it and sell burgers to pissed people leaving the morris man
shoes
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The way you wrote your comment came across as "I opted for a house without a driveway as I didn't need one and it was cheaper" - I see where your coming from though, avoiding deeper debt is the smart choice. I must have just misunderstood you POV from the previous post.
My Name is URL
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Don't think you or I did misunderstand... before Mr Grape was moaning about having to pay for the residents permit to park outside his house - "if i'd wanted to pay for the honour to park outside my own house i would've got a bigger mortgage and bought a house witha drive"shoes said:
That is the bit we disagreed with but now he has changed his story to moaning about getting a ticket / lack of consistency and about people parking there that shouldn't.
It is understandable to be upset at the loss of a loved one without getting a ticket on top of that - no one disagrees with that.
No one is saying you should move, we are saying that you knew the situation when you brought your house and so you can't moan about it now.
If you're unhappy that you'll have to pay to park outside your house - either start a campaign against the parking permit system being introduced or pay up and you will get the benefit of more convenience parking in your street.
henryscat
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Agree with most of that - although is the income vs the cost of enforcement that far out? How many houses are in Castletown.... say 300@ £50 is £15,000/year. The cost of employing a warden is going to be a lot more than that (although you'd only need a few warden hours a week I'd guess), plus cost of lining / advertising all the legal stuff / dealing with tickets. It probably isn't that outrageous.Mr X said:
Problem is that some people think that driving and/or parking is a right and it isn't.