Castletown Parking

Andreas Rex

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Jade-clothing said:
We have had a rather delicious meal in Odysseus though!!
:lorks:

One of the lucky ones, eh?! That's pretty much THE first plus point I've heard ANYONE give it since it opened! See HERE!.

I just walked past and there was literally nobody in there except for the staff, sitting around by the bar. I still can't believe that they didn't do the most obvious thing for any business and ingratiate their potential locals. Quite incredible and rather costly.
 

Scoot Doggy Dogg

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Jade-clothing said:
We moved to Castletown - Jerningham Street - at the end of June and the parking is an absolute nightmare! Not that it bother us, as we dont have a car - in keeping with our environmentally friendly image, selling second hand (recycled) clothing! However it is really annoying when we have visitors, but that aside, what is even more annoying is when people park right outside our front door - and I mean RIGHT outside - so that we cant get out of the house without severely breathing in and getting soaking wet on the (usually) wet car!! Grrrrr - rant over!
June? Wait till the students are back in September. You'll have the added bonus of McDonalds/ Greggs cr@p on your doorstep.

Despite cars blocking the pavement, the Police have been ineffective for about the past two years. When I first moved to Castletown they would ticket you for parking the wrong way against the traffic flow. Since the council have took the parking on the Police aren't interested.
 

Jade-clothing

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Andreas Rex said:
Jade-clothing said:
We have had a rather delicious meal in Odysseus though!!
:lorks:

One of the lucky ones, eh?! That's pretty much THE first plus point I've heard ANYONE give it since it opened! See HERE!.

I just walked past and there was literally nobody in there except for the staff, sitting around by the bar. I still can't believe that they didn't do the most obvious thing for any business and ingratiate their potential locals. Quite incredible and rather costly.
I have to say, I've never known anyone else who had been so have never heard anything good or bad, the day we went though it was packed, every table full all night.
 

gilbert grape

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I'm posting on here as it's the parking part of the story that's really put the lid on my day!

On my first evening not visiting my very sick Father in hospital in 9 days, I get home from work and park in the most legal place available in the area. Admittedly in front of a gate that has a no parking sign but also admittedly the same gate I have parked in front of for two years that I have seen open only once and have never had a complaint and never had a ticket either. The house it belongs to is a rental and I've never been asked to move or had a complaint.
The police planted a ticket on my car but I arrive home and fond the ticket but also 3 cars parked on the pavement and two blocking (a) a garage door and (b) a front door and rear entry gate - neither booked!

Right through this thread people talk about consistency and fairness, I really don't know where that comes into it? Must be just timingand being caught.

I go out for a few hours to try and wind down. On the way home I walked past the park and theres maybe 50-60 kids in there, Police van goes past one way, car goes the other, neither stop although the place is locked.
I walk a bit further and a taxi is parked in front of the windmill with his headlights on dazzling anybody walking or driving towards him. I politely say "excuse me mate, your lights are dazzling anybody coming along tenterbanks" - he looks up says "cheers mate" and carries on reading, taking no action.
A few hundred yards more I get back and find my car with a ticket and others parked badly.
What an absolute bunch of arse day!!
 

Mr X

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gilbert grape said:
I'm posting on here as it's the parking part of the story that's really put the lid on my day!

On my first evening not visiting my very sick Father in hospital in 9 days, I get home from work and park in the most legal place available in the area. Admittedly in front of a gate that has a no parking sign but also admittedly the same gate I have parked in front of for two years that I have seen open only once and have never had a complaint and never had a ticket either. The house it belongs to is a rental and I've never been asked to move or had a complaint.
The police planted a ticket on my car but I arrive home and fond the ticket but also 3 cars parked on the pavement and two blocking (a) a garage door and (b) a front door and rear entry gate - neither booked!

Right through this thread people talk about consistency and fairness, I really don't know where that comes into it? Must be just timingand being caught.

I go out for a few hours to try and wind down. On the way home I walked past the park and theres maybe 50-60 kids in there, Police van goes past one way, car goes the other, neither stop although the place is locked.
I walk a bit further and a taxi is parked in front of the windmill with his headlights on dazzling anybody walking or driving towards him. I politely say "excuse me mate, your lights are dazzling anybody coming along tenterbanks" - he looks up says "cheers mate" and carries on reading, taking no action.
A few hundred yards more I get back and find my car with a ticket and others parked badly.
What an absolute bunch of arse day!!
Really feel for you, they never do seem to be consistent - there's people all over town parked illegally/dangerously and they spend their time booking people who've stayed slightly too long in an empty car park or have one wheel an inch over a line - guess that's the easiest work for them to do though!

But... before anyone else gets to it... I thought that the parking enforcement officers* were employed by the council, and that the police don't ticket cars? Or is your ticket definitely from the police? In which case, maybe the owner reported you so they did something about it?

* approximate title
 

gilbert grape

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Defo from Police and I've phoned them already and am awaiting a response after the officer has his 4 day weekend. Wardens do yellow lines, police do pathways and access I believe. Therefore I'm sure there will soon be responses saying serves you right, blah blah blah. As I say, only seen the thing used once in two years and theres weeds in front of it to prove it aint used!
 

Withnail

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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

That, i know, helps not.

At least we know there is nothing new under the eclipsed moon.
 

Scoot Doggy Dogg

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gilbert grape said:
As I say, only seen the thing used once in two years and theres weeds in front of it to prove it aint used!
That particular gate and the garage behind it have only ever served as a way of keeping exclusive parking spaces on the street itself for the people who live in the house. As you say, you wouldn't mind if they did actually use either to put a car away.
 

Mr X

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Whilst it's only fair that people should be able to park outside their own houses, it should be pointed out that they have no more of a legal right to be parking on a public highway than people going to the station. So, considering the amount of work required to set up and enforce the scheme, £45 per year* is a bargain! I'm sure most people would jump at the chance for a guaranteed parking space for less than £1 per week - stop complaining!

* plus £37 initial set-up fee.
 

Gramaisc

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My question was 'can it really cost that much' - I'm not really sure that people should be able to park on the highway at all, whether outside their own premises or not.
 

Withnail

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While i see Mr X's 'less than a pound a day' point, i similarly thought it sounded rather over the odds - how many households are there in Castletown to be included?

It's rather the cost per household against the overall cost of admin + enforcement that, on the face of it, seems a bit out of synch.

Oops - pound per day per year
 

Mr X

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The Newsletter says 166 permits are to be issued. 166 x £45 = £7470. It's not like the council are making a fortune on this!

Does anybody know which Council is responsible btw? Highways are a County responsibility, but parking wardens are Borough, if I'm correct? If there's a combination, it's not quite so easy to understand the finances!
 

ddub1984

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As an ex-Castletown resident myself, Id gladly pay it & have the scheme. It was never so bad in the evenings, in fact a lot better than a lot of areas such as up by Marston Rd/Peel Terrace, which leads me to believe quite a few Castletown residents must not own cars. But in the day it stopped you going out in the car, as if you left a space you couldnt get one back.

However I can see peoples points that adding up all the households, what is all the money paying for. Its already patrolled daily by traffic wardens so what other costs are there, other than issuing passes, running a database (which Im sure the residents association would be happy to maintain if asked) & putting signs up. It seems like somebody must be making a profit out of the scheme. & that wasnt the idea.
 

Mr X

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Withnail said:
Oops - pound per day per year
Not quite right still! Less than £1 per week. It's just over 12p per day! I challenge somebody to find car parking for less than 12p per day.

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Another way to think of this - how many years of paying for a permit before it's worth your while paving your own drive? I know a very small number in Castletown have this option, but you get the point!
 
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