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Coronavirus.

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Tilly, Feb 13, 2020.

  1. Thehooperman

    Thehooperman Well-Known Forumite

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    I don’t think lockdown is a valid reason for some idiots to blatantly flaunt the protection measures that we should all be abiding to.

    The selfless, let’s all help each other behaviours that we saw during lockdown have totally disappeared by the actions of the selfish idiots that have super immunity powers and don’t give a toss about anyone other than themselves.
     
  2. cj1

    cj1 Well-Known Forumite

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    Yes, I don't agree with it but I understand. I'm trying my best to keep hands face space up. These are Low-cost measures that work. These low-cost measures will keep the pandemic to manageable levels and below the surge capacity of our health care systems.
     
  3. proactive

    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    BUT MANY PEOPLE ARE REFUSING TO COMPLY WITH THE HYGIENE AND DISTANCING MEASURES.

    That is the problem.
     
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    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    But they aren't are they.
     
  5. rudie111

    rudie111 Well-Known Forumite

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    Going to have to agree to disagree on this one. We're back into exponential growth with the measure we have in place already. Going back to social distancing and hand washing alone at this stage will only increase the rate
     
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  6. cj1

    cj1 Well-Known Forumite

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    Unfortunately the recent growths can't be explained through increased testing. It could be caused as a result of the first lockdown which delay cases rather than prevents them. Unfortunately, our spring-summer lockdown looks to of pushed cases in to autumn winter let's just hope it dosn't clash with a bad winter flu season
     
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    But sadly being a "selfish bastard" is nothing new and many don't now see flouting coronavirus restrictions as much different from tax avoidance or exceeding the speed limit.
     
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    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    Sadly being a selfish bastard appears to be a Europe wide problem at the moment, not just Brit related.
     
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    Europe wide or worldwide ?
     
  12. proactive

    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    Quite.

    We should all look to Donald Trump for inspiration...
     
  13. Thehooperman

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    It only takes one idiot to infect hundreds so yes it may be a minority not complying but they will infect many with the "I don't give a shit about social distancing and respect!" attitudes being displayed by such minorities.
     
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  14. cj1

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    The current Rt is approximately 1.2 and the R0 is approximately 3. Yes, these are cases we can definitely do without but it's incredibly unlikely a selfish individual will infect hundreds.
    Especially when as soon as their infection is picked up they are forced into effective house arrest by reasonable force if necessary. Preventing any further mixing with the population until their infectivity period has passed.
     
  15. Thehooperman

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    Effective house arrest!!! Do you seriously believe they will comply with that?
     
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    Yes, most of the population will. £1,000 and £10,000 fine will increase the level of compliance of the wavers, most will do it anyway as decent human beings. There recently was an mp who flouted quarantine rules but believe she was in the very small minority.
     
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    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    Fines are only a deterrent if there's a reasonable possibility of being caught. Which there isn't.
     
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    Someone I know has just come out of a fourteen day sentence - nobody even rang up to see if she was in.

    It amazes me how hard some people seem think all this is - especially as a lot of the same people will bang on about 'the war' all the time - when you couldn't leave your house without your gas mask for six years - plus rationing, the blackout, some economic distress and the odd bomb, although it took the Germans six years to kill 60,000 on the island.

    It's an interesting experiment to imagine this happening 10, 20, 30 & 40 years ago with the facilities that you had available to you at those times - online shopping, internet banking, communications technology in general, rather more than two TV channels, three radio stations and a few records to entertain you...

    I'm glad it waited until now.
     
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    Those mentioning the war usually can't remember much before the Falklands.
     
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    So R is current 1.2 and you want to relax measures?
     
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