Mudgie
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"Behind you with a big stick!" sums up your attitude on here very well.
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Coronavirus.
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proactive
Enjoying a drop of red.
A rise in cases is not something to worry about necessary its the increase in severe disease and death that we need to worry about a rise in asymptomatic and mild disease is of low-cost to the individual
The restrictions are only needed to help the venerable population who are at risk of severe disease and death, which can only be done with shielding, vaccination or suppression restrictions on the wider population.
These restrictions are not cost-free in health or economic terms the COVID policy restrictions are killing people as well as COVID. We need to ensure the policy decisions we take minimise the cost we pay. It is all too easy to find ourselves in a position where COVID lives saved are outnumbered by lives lost due to COVID policy decisions.
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
Tilly
Well-Known Forumite
I'll take that as rhetorical ..
Rather more worrying is the inability of the masses to recognise that they have been lied to
Over
And over
Again
And yet still be unable to alter a mindset that dumped them into this circle of shit to begin with
People
Must be
More Stupid
Now
Than at
Anytime
In History
The End
Tilly
Well-Known Forumite
Underneath?
I don't think they're proposing to not vaccinate half the population to save money it's because the benefit of the vaccine is so small the risks of said vaccine could tip the scales of risk benefit the wrong way.
The Hawk
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Throwing time into the equation, I can guarantee that everyone who catches COVID-19 will die.
Noah
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Possibly, but do we yet have the right questions?
One of the problems with Long Covid is that it affects those who had no or mild symptoms as much or more than those who had more severe symptoms so the long term cost to symptomless/mild symptom individuals may be high.
Long Covid also has a whole range of effects, much more than respiratory issues. One is serious fatigue problems resembling chronic fatigue syndrome, a reported case is someone who was cycling 30 miles a day, since a mild case of Covid he is scarcely able to walk upstairs. Other long term effects include kidney problems, heart problems, neurological effects and weird strokes where instead of a single blood clot affecting part of the brain there are simultaneous small clots in numerous sites.
Not necessary if the venerable populations shield to protect themselves from the virus they don't catch it, therefore, don't become hospitalised or die.
Cases will only grow exponentially for a certain period of time before a natural ceiling is hit then cases drop (think upside-down v if plotted on a graph. But basic social distancing and hygiene measures can be introduced to substantially slow the spread and turn the exponential v into a more rounded semicircle.
rudie111
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Not sure how vulnerable can be isolated TBH, there is always a cross over. There are vulnerable is all ages groups, demographics, races etc. what do we do with vulnerable school children? We tried it with care home residents but as cases are rising so are cases in care homes. An increase in numbers puts everyone at greater risk.
proactive
Enjoying a drop of red.
Have these not been introduced already?
For quite a considerable amount of time now?
Do you think it's working?
Because I don't.
A sizeable proportion of people can't be bothered to follow them and don't give a stuff as to the consequences. So your solution basically involves imprisoning, sorry isolating, people like my elderly parents for the rest of their days, preventing them from seeing family and friends.
As long as the selfish bastard can carry on doing whatever they want that's ok though, isn't it.
No not in prison. protective isolation should only be a voluntary measure for those with a low-risk tolerance threshold.
People are tired of lockdown restrictions which is why compliance is falling for some individuals. If the lockdown never happened and we stuck to easy to comply with hygiene distance measures. Lockdown fatigue would not be kicking in now. The easier something is to follow the better it will be followed. You seem to be forgetting lockdown is not risk-free people have died because of the lockdown measures. it is a high-cost measure whereas hygiene distance measures are low cost. There isn't a perfect solution to this but we can minimise the cost society will pay.
People are tired of lockdown restrictions which is why compliance is falling for some individuals. If the lockdown never happened and we stuck to easy to comply with hygiene distance measures. Lockdown fatigue would not be kicking in now. The easier something is to follow the better it will be followed. You seem to be forgetting lockdown is not risk-free people have died because of the lockdown measures. it is a high-cost measure whereas hygiene distance measures are low cost. There isn't a perfect solution to this but we can minimise the cost society will pay.