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English Democrats - Seeking to Start a Branch in Staffordshire
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Chris, we already have a party to represent the vicious, rabid and vacuous element in this town. You may have been previously unaware of this party, which is, in fact, one man from Stafford for whom the BNP appear to have been far too lefty, soft and caring, so he set up shop on his own.
Do have a good browse of the policies to be clear what a very sick mind could see as sensible ideas.
Do have a good browse of the policies to be clear what a very sick mind could see as sensible ideas.
Lunar Scorpion
Anarchy in the UK
It clearly says in their policies that they are AGAINST multiculturalism. This means that they want everyone to look and act the same > English. Not Greek, or Roman, or anything else. I have enough experience of anti-fascism to know fascism when I see it... Their policies are lifted almost directly from the BNP. Your accusation of racism towards myself and everyone else in this thread is completely unfounded as I can assure you that it had sweet FA to do with the fact you are English or Greek. If you're going to pull the racism card then I think you're being racist because I am half-English and half-Scottish (Celtic) and I identify myself as British, because I am not English, nor Scottish (although I wish I was) and the suggestion that there is no such thing as British is denying me of my human right to a nationality that I don't particularly want in the first place - to me, it's just where I was born and who my ancestors are and gives me a connection with the land and culture. It doesn't stop me from appreciating or even partaking in other cultures from every part of this planet. Nationalism is in fact a relatively recent (almost* always very authoritarian, i.e. fascist) ideology, and it just creates more racism because it separates people on the basis of where they're from and creates a mentality where other nations are inferior. Nationalism will not solve our problems, and mass immigration is not the cause - it's politicians (along with the mass media, corporation bosses and bankers) causing all the problems! My response doesn't beat yours in length but hopefully you will now appreciate how difficult it is to read so much, especially without any fooking paragraphs!Chris said:
* From what I've seen, the SNP appear to defy the usual - but do not quote me on this as I have not read their policies recently.
Alan B'Stard
Well-Known Forumite
Tidy it up please or is the wall of text thread?Lunar Scorpion said:
John Marwood
I ♥ cryptic crosswords
we are all East African
some of us came the northern route
some of us the southern
hence the mix of colours,shapes and sizes
it is all relative and we are all related
some of us came the northern route
some of us the southern
hence the mix of colours,shapes and sizes
it is all relative and we are all related
Please see article that was on BBC website at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/1944910.stm
SNP leader flags up English nationalism
excerpt -
The reality is that we have a shared cultural commonwealth that will long outlive the British state.
Emerging from Britain, we can see a new 'Commonwealth of the Isles', made up of the cultural bonds that Scots and English share.
From Coronation Street to Sean Connery and from Shakespeare to Robert Louis Stevenson, we share bonds that do not need a state to remain in place.
Chris -
The English Democrat party shares its aim of an English parliament, with the Celtic nationalism in Wales and Scotland where the latter have gained their own parliaments.
Therefore, as the SNP have gained the rule of Scotland and such as Plaid Cymru are within the top 3 parties voted for in Wales, what is the difference in English nationalism being a moderate force for good.
The BNP are NOT english nationalist as their party name includes the name British and therefore the truth is against devolution. This is also the case for the UKIP party, whose name includes the words United Kingdom (now no longer the case as each nation has its own parliament save for England).
The policies of the English Democrats include many integrated foreigners as members and believers.
The politicians in Westminster now are not for social justice of equality between races, creeds and regions of the British Isles.
What is given in funding to one must be given to all in equal shares otherwise that is inequality. That care of the elderly and access to up to date medicines for serious illnesses is better accessed in Scotland than England is not the fault of the SNP, but of the denial of these by the England government to those who live in England, which include the Celts who live here as well as all races.
The case of the discrimination against Christianity also shows the lack of equality as the overwhelmingly majority of Christians in England are not ethnic English, but come from all over the world, all continents, most races and cultures and therefore the government in Westminster display, through the courts, prejudice against us all - not by religion but by race, even those with the same race.
It is very strange that the English deny England and in the process bring inequality and lack of social justice in their wake.
The English Democrats are correct as shown by the published science since 1958 (Kalvero Oberg - Culture Shock) and many health professionals of many races publishing medical research into that eventual mental illness caused by not integrating into local culture, which has no effect whatsoever in being dual culture/dual language. It is the best prevention against this psychiatric stress injury which can lead to Clinical Depression.
The English Democrats are the party of England for all races and creeds.
It is the other political parties that have proven themselves to be against us all and putting us against the Celt nations, when the nationalists (who have won in those regions) share friendship with the English nationalists, the real and original ones, who do not need the right wing brand of communism called fascism at all.
English nationalists are no more radical than any other nation being proud and putting their nation first for their own citizens, from wherever they come - local or far. There is no-one who says that it is radical for a Hindu to love India or a Jamaican to love the Caribbean.
Also no-one who appears foreign in culture is replying to my post and they do understand the concept of Culture Shock.
The impression is gained that the English are disparaging to their own country of England and are against its existence. For politically England does not exist. Yet everywhere the people have decided by the flying of the flag of St George rather than the Union Flag about England existing in their hearts and as a culture, English. Including shop windows of businesses owned by Asians in England.
It is up to the public to decide and so I am endeavouring to start a branch of the English Democrats in Stafford, which is within the county within which was found the Saxon Hoard of Staffordshire which has been saved for England. We are proud to be English as shown by the very long queues over the many days that the Staffordshire Hoard was shown in Stoke.
Also anyone calling the English Democrats party racist is taken to court as they have always accepted any race in membership.
I may remind the Forum that I am both English and English Greek in blood and come from a community born in the 1950s of military personnel who were sent to bases all over the world and met local ladies who already spoke English, whom they married. I lived my lifetime within this multi-cultural community where the wives and children lived in an English culture yet lost none of their own culture and the children (like myself) kept both cultures and a pride in both.
So from persons who comprehend not at all human culture in psychology and life experience, how can you judge what you do not know.
The English Democrats are the liberation of England from all that is corrupt and uncaring to us all that emanates from parliament today.
I am proud to be English in England. I am proud to have my Greek culture and proud of Greece. But I would never imagine any time that I would deny the English culture of England. That is prejudice against my own country.
The English Democrats are Staffordshire - Shropshire - West Midlands - anywhere in England's borders.
As I repeat. I have no interest whatsoever in those who wish to remain in the status quo and have us ruled by a parliament holding within it parties that have no interest in England or its people, of whatever race, giving us inequality and lack of social justice.
No-one is going to tell me to be prejudiced against the English, whose nation England is originally.
As a Greek from Greece who have been in England for over 2,000 years continuously, the Greeks never asked the English to change for them. We adapted to the English. We kept our own culture. We were both. This is love of country and emotional wellbeing.
Again I repeat. I have no interest in the BNP or whatever political activists who rant against the English Democrats and to me personally. I do not care. I will not change my views.
What is my interest, is those who love England, whether they are native English or English Other, and want to liberate the country from the corrupt parties in parliament today and put England first for the care of its people, of whatever race.
That is why my interest is in starting a new branch, in Stafford, of the English Democrats. If you are interested then make contact with the party direct through their website - www.englishdemocrats.org.uk - and they will contact me in due course, as well.
Love England. You know it makes sense.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/1944910.stm
SNP leader flags up English nationalism
excerpt -
The reality is that we have a shared cultural commonwealth that will long outlive the British state.
Emerging from Britain, we can see a new 'Commonwealth of the Isles', made up of the cultural bonds that Scots and English share.
From Coronation Street to Sean Connery and from Shakespeare to Robert Louis Stevenson, we share bonds that do not need a state to remain in place.
Chris -
The English Democrat party shares its aim of an English parliament, with the Celtic nationalism in Wales and Scotland where the latter have gained their own parliaments.
Therefore, as the SNP have gained the rule of Scotland and such as Plaid Cymru are within the top 3 parties voted for in Wales, what is the difference in English nationalism being a moderate force for good.
The BNP are NOT english nationalist as their party name includes the name British and therefore the truth is against devolution. This is also the case for the UKIP party, whose name includes the words United Kingdom (now no longer the case as each nation has its own parliament save for England).
The policies of the English Democrats include many integrated foreigners as members and believers.
The politicians in Westminster now are not for social justice of equality between races, creeds and regions of the British Isles.
What is given in funding to one must be given to all in equal shares otherwise that is inequality. That care of the elderly and access to up to date medicines for serious illnesses is better accessed in Scotland than England is not the fault of the SNP, but of the denial of these by the England government to those who live in England, which include the Celts who live here as well as all races.
The case of the discrimination against Christianity also shows the lack of equality as the overwhelmingly majority of Christians in England are not ethnic English, but come from all over the world, all continents, most races and cultures and therefore the government in Westminster display, through the courts, prejudice against us all - not by religion but by race, even those with the same race.
It is very strange that the English deny England and in the process bring inequality and lack of social justice in their wake.
The English Democrats are correct as shown by the published science since 1958 (Kalvero Oberg - Culture Shock) and many health professionals of many races publishing medical research into that eventual mental illness caused by not integrating into local culture, which has no effect whatsoever in being dual culture/dual language. It is the best prevention against this psychiatric stress injury which can lead to Clinical Depression.
The English Democrats are the party of England for all races and creeds.
It is the other political parties that have proven themselves to be against us all and putting us against the Celt nations, when the nationalists (who have won in those regions) share friendship with the English nationalists, the real and original ones, who do not need the right wing brand of communism called fascism at all.
English nationalists are no more radical than any other nation being proud and putting their nation first for their own citizens, from wherever they come - local or far. There is no-one who says that it is radical for a Hindu to love India or a Jamaican to love the Caribbean.
Also no-one who appears foreign in culture is replying to my post and they do understand the concept of Culture Shock.
The impression is gained that the English are disparaging to their own country of England and are against its existence. For politically England does not exist. Yet everywhere the people have decided by the flying of the flag of St George rather than the Union Flag about England existing in their hearts and as a culture, English. Including shop windows of businesses owned by Asians in England.
It is up to the public to decide and so I am endeavouring to start a branch of the English Democrats in Stafford, which is within the county within which was found the Saxon Hoard of Staffordshire which has been saved for England. We are proud to be English as shown by the very long queues over the many days that the Staffordshire Hoard was shown in Stoke.
Also anyone calling the English Democrats party racist is taken to court as they have always accepted any race in membership.
I may remind the Forum that I am both English and English Greek in blood and come from a community born in the 1950s of military personnel who were sent to bases all over the world and met local ladies who already spoke English, whom they married. I lived my lifetime within this multi-cultural community where the wives and children lived in an English culture yet lost none of their own culture and the children (like myself) kept both cultures and a pride in both.
So from persons who comprehend not at all human culture in psychology and life experience, how can you judge what you do not know.
The English Democrats are the liberation of England from all that is corrupt and uncaring to us all that emanates from parliament today.
I am proud to be English in England. I am proud to have my Greek culture and proud of Greece. But I would never imagine any time that I would deny the English culture of England. That is prejudice against my own country.
The English Democrats are Staffordshire - Shropshire - West Midlands - anywhere in England's borders.
As I repeat. I have no interest whatsoever in those who wish to remain in the status quo and have us ruled by a parliament holding within it parties that have no interest in England or its people, of whatever race, giving us inequality and lack of social justice.
No-one is going to tell me to be prejudiced against the English, whose nation England is originally.
As a Greek from Greece who have been in England for over 2,000 years continuously, the Greeks never asked the English to change for them. We adapted to the English. We kept our own culture. We were both. This is love of country and emotional wellbeing.
Again I repeat. I have no interest in the BNP or whatever political activists who rant against the English Democrats and to me personally. I do not care. I will not change my views.
What is my interest, is those who love England, whether they are native English or English Other, and want to liberate the country from the corrupt parties in parliament today and put England first for the care of its people, of whatever race.
That is why my interest is in starting a new branch, in Stafford, of the English Democrats. If you are interested then make contact with the party direct through their website - www.englishdemocrats.org.uk - and they will contact me in due course, as well.
Love England. You know it makes sense.
shoes
Well-Known Forumite
Just to summarise, here is the sum total of policies on the Engrish Democrats website.
1. England is the third most densely populated country in the world and the most densely populated country in Europe.
We don't have space or resources to permit more large scale immigration.
We say mass immigration must be ended. We would deport illegal immigrants and all those who are extremists, terrorists and criminals.
We would get control of our immigration systems by leaving the EU!
2. It is time common sense prevailed. The various quangos promoting political correctness should be closed and those laws promoting political correctness repealed. We want English freedoms and values, not multiculturalism.
3. We demand the right to enjoy and celebrate our Englishness. We say that pride in our Country and community is healthy and natural. This is why we call for an English First Minister, Government and Parliament with at least the same powers as the Scottish ones!
4. English Democrats advocate withdrawal from the European Union (EU) and rejoining the European Free Trade Association (EFTA) , which will guarantee free trade with the EU but will free us from EU political rule and save us its £63 billion per year cost!
Basically a postcard's worth written down in FOUR categories. Presumably soon to appear printed on the inside of rizla packets soon, collect them all.
1. England is the third most densely populated country in the world and the most densely populated country in Europe.
We don't have space or resources to permit more large scale immigration.
We say mass immigration must be ended. We would deport illegal immigrants and all those who are extremists, terrorists and criminals.
We would get control of our immigration systems by leaving the EU!
2. It is time common sense prevailed. The various quangos promoting political correctness should be closed and those laws promoting political correctness repealed. We want English freedoms and values, not multiculturalism.
3. We demand the right to enjoy and celebrate our Englishness. We say that pride in our Country and community is healthy and natural. This is why we call for an English First Minister, Government and Parliament with at least the same powers as the Scottish ones!
4. English Democrats advocate withdrawal from the European Union (EU) and rejoining the European Free Trade Association (EFTA) , which will guarantee free trade with the EU but will free us from EU political rule and save us its £63 billion per year cost!
Basically a postcard's worth written down in FOUR categories. Presumably soon to appear printed on the inside of rizla packets soon, collect them all.
John Marwood
I ♥ cryptic crosswords
cunna b assed readin thru mr cromwells 'tribe so i will respond to young shoes' response instead which is usually more fun,lark
1 Holland is the most,blah vlah, europe anyway
2 common sense, like common good does not exist, blah vlah
3 we are all individuals ( altogether now..)
4 Guarentees are not worth the dusty screens them written on - eh bab
5 toodlepip - the sound from one of Jupiter's moons kept me awake all night so i am rambling ( even more than usual )
6 Got any more Quo?
1 Holland is the most,blah vlah, europe anyway
2 common sense, like common good does not exist, blah vlah
3 we are all individuals ( altogether now..)
4 Guarentees are not worth the dusty screens them written on - eh bab
5 toodlepip - the sound from one of Jupiter's moons kept me awake all night so i am rambling ( even more than usual )
6 Got any more Quo?
Lunar Scorpion
Anarchy in the UK
Exactly my effing point... Get rid of states and nations and nation-states.Chris said:
Englander1
A few posts under my belt
Some of the comments I have read above just illustrate the ignorance of the issues facing our country.
In England, the world’s oldest Democracy, we ought to have the right to expect that our politicians will put the interests of our people first, but the British Political Establishment don’t – they put their party’s interests first and often act against our interests and also sometimes add insult to injury! That’s why the English Democrats say that we need a political party to represent England; like the Scottish National Party (SNP) for Scotland, and Plaid Cymru, for Wales!
We are passionate about England’s cause........The English Democrats, not left, not right, just English.
In England, the world’s oldest Democracy, we ought to have the right to expect that our politicians will put the interests of our people first, but the British Political Establishment don’t – they put their party’s interests first and often act against our interests and also sometimes add insult to injury! That’s why the English Democrats say that we need a political party to represent England; like the Scottish National Party (SNP) for Scotland, and Plaid Cymru, for Wales!
We are passionate about England’s cause........The English Democrats, not left, not right, just English.
Englander1
A few posts under my belt
Checkout Robin Tilbrook's profile chairman of the English Democrats
Get involved and join the Red and White Evolution
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8610149.stm
Get involved and join the Red and White Evolution
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8610149.stm
Withnail
Well-Known Forumite
Instead check out Glenn Tilbrook. I'm pretty sure you'll like it more.
Englander1
A few posts under my belt
Withnail your quotes from the film are without doubt some of the best ever written for the silver screen, however please get your facts right if you are going to post things....otherwise I can only conclude you are smoking far too many Camberwell Carrots
English Democrat Manifesto Link
http://www.voteenglish.org/manifesto/
The site is under construction and will be completed soon so keep it in your favourites...England Expects
English Democrat Manifesto Link
http://www.voteenglish.org/manifesto/
The site is under construction and will be completed soon so keep it in your favourites...England Expects