Funding confirmed for Western Access Road in Stafford

[Steve_b]

Steve B, I am not a traffic expert I am just a Stafford resident that uses Chell Road and Station Road often. I believe the new link road would take some traffic off Station Road and Chell Road. How many vehicles? I have no idea, but I hope it's enough to justify the cost, inconvenience and to solve the existing problems.

I hope it does help to, we defiantly need alternatives than to be forced past Sainsbury's or Tesco's to get through town. Just concerned what SBCs plans are for Chell Road and their plans for Improved Bus facilities. South Walls was blocked off, stopping traffic traveling though town, wouldn't want to see the same happen to Chell Road.

 

[kyoto49]

When oh when are people in England going to realise that building more roads does not reduce congestion in anything but the very shortest term. It's not a solution to traffic gridlock. Getting people off their fat asses and out of their individual metal boxes is the only way to reduce gridlock. Sheeeesh!

 

[tek-monkey]

When oh when are people in England going to realise that building more roads does not reduce congestion in anything but the very shortest term. It's not a solution to traffic gridlock. Getting people off their fat asses and out of their individual metal boxes is the only way to reduce gridlock. Sheeeesh!

I'll admit a part of my concern with the marshes was entirely selfish, I take the youngest cycling down there a lot and would hate to see it cut off. Especially as if you then cut through castletown or the new estate on Universal you then get to the lines that take you to Gnosall traffic free. She cycled all the way to Norbury Junction about 2 months back, not bad for an 8 year old

 

[proactive]

When oh when are people in England going to realise that building more roads does not reduce congestion in anything but the very shortest term. It's not a solution to traffic gridlock. Getting people off their fat asses and out of their individual metal boxes is the only way to reduce gridlock. Sheeeesh!

That will only happen if public transport improves in a massive way and even then people will still want the freedom that a car brings.

Not everyone lives within walking distance of town and not everyone lives a bus ride away from work.

 

[tek-monkey]

Agree on the public transport thing, its often just as quick to walk than take the bus in moderate traffic and if there are 3 or more of us then a taxi is cheaper.

 

[kyoto49]

That will only happen if public transport improves in a massive way and even then people will still want the freedom that a car brings.

Not everyone lives within walking distance of town and not everyone lives a bus ride away from work.

The busiest times of the day on the roads are school run and morning work traffic, and school run and afternoon end or work day traffic. Stafford is not a big place, it very easy to cycle from one side to the other in approx 30 mins, 15 mins from the outer housing estates to town. If those that were able to cycle/walk or get public transport did, then their wouldn't be any traffic chaos. The problem is caused by local people doing short journeys that could quite easily be done by foot or bike.

During the day the bus service in Stafford is pretty decent, I'm not a fan, preferring to walk or cycle, but the frequency of the buses cannot be moaned about. it is expensive, but in comparison to running a car, not really that expensive. The evenings is more problematic, but there isn't a traffic problem in the evenings.

I know people who drive from Castlefields to the Hospital to work, I know people who drive from Sandon Rd to Tollgate Ind Est (about 100 yards in distance for pedestrians), I know people who drive from Parkside to Tollgate Ind Est, I know people who drive from Parkside to town. Why??? All of these people are physically able, quite able to cycle. It makes no sense. These same people then moan about the weight they have put on and then drive to Esporta/Virgin, whatever the hell it's called now. If they'd incorporated walking/cycling into their daily routine they could save on the gym bills, save on the petrol bills, help de-clog the roads, and get themselves healthier.

I'm not advocating banning cars, or stopping people driving when necessary, of course I'm not, but if a journey is less than 3 miles and around Stafford, why not walk or cycle. It's not as if the car is quicker because almost everyone at rush hours is going nowhere fast! And there would be massive benefits in health, the roads would be safer for kids, it would be quieter for everyone, think England in the 1960's

What's patently clear is that continuing to build roads is an Elastoplast on a broken bone type of solution - its doomed to fail.

 

[PPPPPP]

The busiest times of the day on the roads are school run and morning work traffic, and school run and afternoon end or work day traffic.

Obviously, the solution is to stop educating children and increase unemployment.

 

[tek-monkey]

Stagger work days, would sort loads out. Better school buses would help too, only pussies got a lift when I was there!

 

[PPPPPP]

Stagger work days, would sort loads out. Better school buses would help too, only pussies got a lift when I was there!

Yeah, I think there was only one person in the entire school I went to who got picked up in a car, and that was for valid medical reasons, not laziness.

 

[Steve_b]

Stafford's western access road branded a "disaster"
Staffordshire Newsletter

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[Jonah]

Stagger work days, would sort loads out. Better school buses would help too, only pussies got a lift when I was there!

Yeah, I think there was only one person in the entire school I went to who got picked up in a car, and that was for valid medical reasons, not laziness.

I very, very rarely got a lift to school - but I went during the 70s & early 80s so cars weren't invented then


I think the difference now is that in a lot of households both parents/guardians have to work to be able to afford to live so quite a lot of children must get dropped off at school when their parent is on the way to work.

 

[tek-monkey]

Discussed this yesterday, falling wages and higher living standards mean its rare for both parents not to work. Unemployment would be zero if each parent earned enough to raise a family on as the other wouldn't be taking up a job. Plus of course no childcare costs, more time spent with the kids etc.

 

[kyoto49]

Discussed this yesterday, falling wages and higher living standards mean its rare for both parents not to work. Unemployment would be zero if each parent earned enough to raise a family on as the other wouldn't be taking up a job. Plus of course no childcare costs, more time spent with the kids etc.

With the assumption that all the women stay at home..........obviously!!

In reality the chance of 50% of parents willingly quitting work is basically non-existant!!!

 

[tek-monkey]

With the assumption that all the women stay at home..........obviously!!

In reality the chance of 50% of parents willingly quitting work is basically non-existant!!!

I'd happily be the stay at home one if my OH earned more, no probs there! Most can't afford to though, you certainly can't buy a house on one persons salary anymore unless you have a very good job so both have to work.

 

[Jonah]

With the assumption that all the women stay at home..........obviously!!

In reality the chance of 50% of parents willingly quitting work is basically non-existant!!!

Neither myself or tek-monkey mentioned gender so why do you?

 

[kyoto49]

Neither myself or tek-monkey mentioned gender so why do you?

Because back in the real world it is women who do most of the childcare even now, it is women who mostly sacrifice their careers to bring up children, so it follows that should only one partner in a family work it will be the man. It won't be like this in every family, and I'm sure all the men on the forum are rushing to tell me they do 50% of everything associated with rearing their children, and I'm sure some do, but having listened to 13 years worth of male dominated conversation where I work, I'm damn sure very view men would give up work permananetly to bring up their families. Course I could be completely wrong

 

[Prawn cocktail]

What happens when there is a problem on the M6?? All the extra traffic comes through Stafford and makes a bad situation worse.

I am sure that more people would like to cycle more, but with most of the shops being spread around the town in different locations, this is not easy. You can't carry much on a bike. The layout of the town is just poor.

The town is growing faster than I have ever seen it grow and we don't have the infrastructure to support the growth.

 

[kyoto49]

What happens when there is a problem on the M6?? All the extra traffic comes through Stafford and makes a bad situation worse.

I am sure that more people would like to cycle more, but with most of the shops being spread around the town in different locations, this is not easy. You can't carry much on a bike. The layout of the town is just poor.

The town is growing faster than I have ever seen it grow and we don't have the infrastructure to support the growth.

We'll never have enough road infrastructure, that's the point. We need to think beyond a car dominated life.

 

[cj1]

we could build enough road infrastructure to support car dominated travel however it is very expensive and nobody wants to pay for it however for economic reasons believe it is important capacity improvements take place at the worst hot spots

 

[tek-monkey]

Because back in the real world it is women who do most of the childcare even now, it is women who mostly sacrifice their careers to bring up children, so it follows that should only one partner in a family work it will be the man. It won't be like this in every family, and I'm sure all the men on the forum are rushing to tell me they do 50% of everything associated with rearing their children, and I'm sure some do, but having listened to 13 years worth of male dominated conversation where I work, I'm damn sure very view men would give up work permananetly to bring up their families. Course I could be completely wrong

I have no children, but I'd happily look after the OHs kids if it meant I didn't have to work at the college anymore. Hell, I'm eying up a shelf monkey job at lidl at the min just to get out! I'd happily walk the kids to school and clean the house if it got me out of there, you seem rather sexest in your assumption it would always be the women staying at home. I'm all for equal rights, I'd happily stay home and Cook/clean.