mediums

[db]

Frankly, I thinks its all crap and constantly amazed at the seemingly rational people who say "but they told me this, and no-one could have known it".
Just wondering how this experiment is progressing...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7684684.stm

Wow what pointless research. I wonder how much this is costing, and how long before they realise it is of no use to society whatsoever.

Surely this money would be better spent researching cancer or another equally real and present threat to society?

in fairness, i don't think it's fair to call it "pointless research".. there have been stories about seeing lights/doors/etc. at the point of death for centuries, so naturally someone would eventually want to try and prove or disprove it scientifically..

why is it pointless? fair enough if you don't believe in any of it, but i'm pretty sure you can't provide proof.. if someone else wants to have a go, more power to them..

 

[shoes]

No its pointless because it means nothing, it will not do anything for humanity other than fueling the fires of these religious nuts.

In the meantime there are very real threats which we could be channelling our time and energy into.

As far as seeing things goes at the final minute it would make sense as your brain is starving of oxygen and probably haemoraging or whatever, i mean when you whack your head hard enough you 'see things' and thats down to brain trauma, so I do beieve at the point where the brain dies it is likely to produce some sort of weird imagery.

I also think that subcounscious has a lot to do with it much in the same way you dream about recent events, if you are led to believe from lots of stories and accounts about the the conventional tunnel with light at the end of it then it is possible your brain, in a moment or trauma, is simply creating this image based on what you have heard.

 

[shoes]

I had an out of body experience once, well I say once it lasted about a month. The anti depressants I was on made me feel so detached I literally watched myself go about my day. I always seemed to be sat above door frames, or in the corner of rooms on the ceiling. It was like playing resident evil.

I've had similar exepriences on LSD. Everything was incredibly interesting too for some reason....

 

[db]

No its pointless because it means nothing, it will not do anything for humanity other than fueling the fires of these religious nuts.

In the meantime there are very real threats which we could be channelling our time and energy into.

As far as seeing things goes at the final minute it would make sense as your brain is starving of oxygen and probably haemoraging or whatever, i mean when you whack your head hard enough you 'see things' and thats down to brain trauma, so I do beieve at the point where the brain dies it is likely to produce some sort of weird imagery.

I also think that subcounscious has a lot to do with it much in the same way you dream about recent events, if you are led to believe from lots of stories and accounts about the the conventional tunnel with light at the end of it then it is possible your brain, in a moment or trauma, is simply creating this image based on what you have heard.

your theories are fairly sound, and it wouldn't surprise me if they were true.. however they are just theories.. this guy is just out to prove them.. what's wrong with that?

and you are correct, there are plenty of better causes that the money could be spent on, but that is true of millions of other ventures that are currently underway across the globe.. that's the way of the world! if this guy's got the money, and wants to spend it in this way, fair play to him..

perhaps he'll prove categorically that there is no afterlife, and it will make millions rethink their beliefs.. would it have been pointless then? i'm pretty sure that his research will come to nothing.. however, no-one will know unless he has a crack..

 

[tek-monkey]

Without disproving things we'd still be in the dark ages, so I see any research that proves something one way or another as important. Lets face it, if science could prove there was no god a lot of people would have extra free time to do useful stuff. Just think of all those wasted man hours.

 

[db]

Without disproving things we'd still be in the dark ages, so I see any research that proves something one way or another as important.

thanks tek, that's basically what i was trying to say

 

[Wookie]

Hum. Every so often, someone gigs the Tillington Hall. Acorah did a Haunted Town special on Stafford a few years ago (incidentally, if anyone's got a copy of this, please PM me; I'd *love* to see it again ). As mentioned, there's the spiritualist church.

To nail me colours to the mast, for those who don't know; it's my sincere belief that the whole area of afterlife communication is populated solely by the criminally fraudulent, the mentally deranged and the people who show how it can appear to be done by anybody.
The James Randi Educational Foundation will give you a million dollars if you can really do it. You either go over there and take the money, or crawl back under your rock.

@Rikki: Your link's broken here. What was it, so we can search the site?

 

[tek-monkey]

Think you mean here mate: http://www.randi.org/site/

 

[Wookie]

Dammit! Thank you Tek. Edited in original post.
When you've read the entire site, have a look around for a Granada programme from 199something called James Randi: Psychic Investigator. Watch out for Jonathan Cainer getting a new arsehole put in, courtesy of Fry and Laurie.

 

[Tinkerbell]

Sometimes I go the the spiritulist ?? not right spelling church on the Stone Road - they have mediums on a Tuesday night - some are very good - and some are really bad -

I know they sometimes have special events when you can have a one to one.

I am open minded on these things - but I did pay £25 for a one to one - and the bloke rambled on about how he had my Nan and Grandad talking to him (from the other side) - apparently they were saying how they enjoyed watching me grow up and they liked all the stories I used to tell them when I got home from school when I was a kid - WOT A CROCK MY GRANDPARENTS WERE DUTCH AND AT THE TIME I COULDNT SPEAK A WORD OF IT - SO WE NEVER SPOKE A WORD - I let him finish his bollox and before I got up and left I told him and the medium was a bit red faced !!

 

[Rikki]

@Rikki: Your link's broken here. What was it, so we can search the site?

link should be fixed now

 

[Lunar Scorpion]

i am very interested in any thing like this . does any one know of any of them in stafford area mediums clairv

This was the first post, what the feck has all this "it's BS, LS is a loony" got to do with it?

 

[tek-monkey]

Rag week? It's not suprising that the majority of people find the idea of talking to the dead laughable surely? If only these 'real' mediums would prove something, that'd learn us!

 

[db]

i am very interested in any thing like this . does any one know of any of them in stafford area mediums clairv

This was the first post, what the feck has all this "it's BS, LS is a loony" got to do with it?

there is one post in the whole thread that mentions you, and that is from shoes who you know full well you are stuck in a childish bickering mobious loop with.. stop being paranoid and seeing things that are not there, and stop trying to derail threads by claiming they are about you..

there are plenty of posts in this thread claiming disbelief at the notion of mediums, which are perfectly reasonably responses for a thread which is about, erm, mediums..

 

[shoes]

your theories are fairly sound, and it wouldn't surprise me if they were true.. however they are just theories.. this guy is just out to prove them.. what's wrong with that?

and you are correct, there are plenty of better causes that the money could be spent on, but that is true of millions of other ventures that are currently underway across the globe.. that's the way of the world! if this guy's got the money, and wants to spend it in this way, fair play to him..

perhaps he'll prove categorically that there is no afterlife, and it will make millions rethink their beliefs.. would it have been pointless then? i'm pretty sure that his research will come to nothing.. however, no-one will know unless he has a crack..

Fair point, I never thought far enough ahead!

If he manages to concince millions of people that their beliefs are wrong, their creator is false and nothing happens when you die then yes it will be well worth it.

Interestingly after my bashing the spirits above something weird happened at home last night. I was just gettin a loaf from the top cupboard and turned to talk to my housemate. As i turned back to close the cupboard the large box of Surf washing powder randomly fell from the top of the cupboard on top of me and at the same time the kitchen light briefly went out (maybe less than a second).

Anyway, I'm sure people out there will be convinced its because I pissed off the spirits. I think its because the window was open and there was so little powder in the box making it sufficiently light enough to be blown. It stands to reason that the same gust of wind would mess with the very very sensitive and dickie light fitting on the light in the kitchen. Its just odd it happened literally the day after I mentioned about what a load of bollocks it is. Either that or LS is into voodoo......

 

[ToriRat]

Weird stuff happens to me all the time, I am still a dyed in the wool sceptic. I prefer to believe I'm going cookoo rather than there are etheral beings floating about perving on ppl in the shower ( which to be quite frank is what I'd be doing)
I saw a medium once (although actually she was more of a Large) she told me my granny was watching over me, that i had two lovely children and that i was going to get a really amazing job or move house soon...Oh and that my husband was in the military.... I was at that time recovering from one of the most serious bouts of depression in about 6 years and had been doing random things will pills, sharp objects and such however she completly failed to pick up on this....There were ten ladies at this psychic party each of us paid 30 euros for the reading and another two random ladies showed up and were charged 50 euros cos they hadnt boooked... I think that 400 euros for approximatly two and half hours work could help anyone contact the spirits.
Maybe I should practise my tarot cards more.....Yes.... the next person to write on this thread will be a man or a woman between the ages of 15 and 65, possibly blonde or brunette and their name or the name of someone close to them will begin with a J......

 

[tek-monkey]

the next person to write on this thread will be a man or a woman between the ages of 15 and 65, possibly blonde or brunette and their name or the name of someone close to them will begin with a J......

OMFG, thats spooky!

 

[Gramaisc]

If the supernatural exists then it's not supernatural. We didn't know about electromagnetism and now it's everywhere. The difference is that we weren't looking for electromagnetism before because we didn't know we wanted it to exist. We've been looking for ghosts/spirits/telekinesis/mind-reading, etc. for millennia and still we can't find it. Maybe we're looking in the wrong place.

 

[kingsarms]

my mum n dad are both mediums and also teach it. they go the david jones spiritulist centre on the stone road. if you go to www.timabbott.net thats my dads web site n has got contact info on there for sittings too.

 

[shazbo]

cheers kings arms