Motorists in Stafford are panic buying fuel - stop it!!

[henryscat]

Even those that don't drive will be effected. More or less everything that you buy in this Country is moved by diesel consuming truck and that includes the food that you buy from your local shops or supermarket & so I don't think anyone driver or otherwise can "feel smug"

Isn't it a coincidence that the Government openly insights a fuel panic just at the end of the financial year when if we have another quarter of negative growth we will technically be back in recession. A nice way of bumping up the tax reciepts for them and hopefully heading that one off.....Same old Tories.....

If (and it still remains if!) there is a strike hauliers will be prioritised above forecourts to keep supermarket distribution going.

As for tax receipts - that's a red herring... People aren't actually consuming any greater amount of fuel than they otherwise would, the silly sods are panic buying which just causes a spike in sales which will eventually be matched by a corresponding drop. So, the government isnt making any more than they would in the absence of a strike.

 

[Franklin_Delano_Roosevelt]

If (and it still remains if!) there is a strike hauliers will be prioritised above forecourts to keep supermarket distribution going.

As for tax receipts - that's a red herring... People aren't actually consuming any greater amount of fuel than they otherwise would, the silly sods are panic buying which just causes a spike in sales which will eventually be matched by a corresponding drop. So, the government isnt making any more than they would in the absence of a strike.

I'm afraid you are wrong my friend, the Government is coining it in EXTRA sales. People don't usually visit filling stations and fill their vehicle and a whole hoard of jerry cans - this is extra spend. Also on the news yesterday there was an interview with a fuel company who said that they were selling much more to the domestic fuel market - coming into the summer those that rely on oil for domestic purposes wouldn't usually stock up at this time but many are as they have been dupped by the Government.
As I say more sales and sales at a critically imporant time for the Government in terms of the figures.

 

[citricsquid]

Dont think i would stand much of a chance in retail, as im not in retail! Lots of retail jobs in stafford.........lots of people who work or trained in retail in stafford..............so i think i dont stand much of a chance in that lol - also if you look the jobs are mainly, under 16 hrs - cleaning, pub, cafe, retail - thats so the employers dont have to pay as much NI conts.....not much good for me though, i need full time...got a house to run a child to feed...........spose i could always find myself a husband and force him to work all hours and days lol..............on the other hand naw, can do without the grief haha

Retail places will hire anyone willing to do the work. You should apply anyway, worst case you get rejected, best case you get an offer for a job in the town paying minimum wage at full time! You don't have to quit your current job to apply for new ones; just don't tell any nosey co-workers

 

[henryscat]

I'm afraid you are wrong my friend, the Government is coining it in EXTRA sales. People don't usually visit filling stations and fill their vehicle and a whole hoard of jerry cans - this is extra spend. Also on the news yesterday there was an interview with a fuel company who said that they were selling much more to the domestic fuel market - coming into the summer those that rely on oil for domestic purposes wouldn't usually stock up at this time but many are as they have been dupped by the Government.
As I say more sales and sales at a critically imporant time for the Government in terms of the figures.

Your logic does not compute.

No extra fuel is being consumed, people are not increasing consumption, they are changing their buying habit which is different.

If someone uses 200 litres of fuel a month and buys 50 litres a week, but then they react by buying 200 litres all in one go, their consumption for the month hasn't altered. Across the month the government gets no more in the latter scenario since the individual buys no further fuel the rest of the month.

All stockpiling does is alter the location of fuel not its actual consumption.

 

[Franklin_Delano_Roosevelt]

Your logic does not compute.

No extra fuel is being consumed, people are not increasing consumption, they are changing their buying habit which is different.

If someone uses 200 litres of fuel a month and buys 50 litres a week, but then they react by buying 200 litres all in one go, their consumption for the month hasn't altered. Across the month the government gets no more in the latter scenario since the individual buys no further fuel the rest of the month.

All stockpiling does is alter the location of fuel not its actual consumption.

I take your point but there is a logic. You are assuming that people are acting rationally and quite clearly they are not. There will be those who fill up the odd jerry can here, the odd container there and shove it in their garage or shed and then once the dust settles and everything returns to normal forget it is there. It therefore becomes extra spend, at least in the short to medium term
By your own rationale if I usually buy 50 litres in a week but because of Government rhetoric choose to buy all 200 litres in one hit then that becomes a big tax take for the Government in the short term as it seeks to massage the figures before the close of the financial year. Multiply that up Nationwide and it is kerching for HMRC.
I take your point that means people will potentially then spend less as they have more but by that time we'll be in a new tax year and the figures will have been suitably massaged.

 

[phildo]

If (and it still remains if!) there is a strike hauliers will be prioritised above forecourts to keep supermarket distribution going.

Great strategy... so the supermarkets will get deliveries but most customers won't have any fuel to go and do the shop!

 

[age'd parent]

Just filled up with diesel at sandon rd garage, Opposite lotus, a slight wait but only 2 cars in front of me.
There didn't seem any rush or panic about it, more busy than usual though, 1 pump switched off, possible empty?

 

[phildo]

I needed fuel this morning (under 1/4 tank left - enough for 1 or 2 days). Lammascote - queuing so I left it, BP sold out, Shell in Stone sold out, BP in Stone doesn't sell SUL??, BP near Hanford had fuel and I managed to fill up ...at 155/litre

 

[Gramaisc]

Just filled up with diesel at sandon rd garage, Opposite lotus, a slight wait but only 2 cars in front of me.
There didn't seem any rush or panic about it, more busy than usual though, 1 pump switched off, possible empty?

I've just come past there. Their sign implies that they still have all fuels, and at pre-crisis prices - e.g., 137.9 for petrol - but the static queues are now forcing the actual traffic to use the Oxford Gardens 'one way at a time' system...

 

[Vault_girl]

I filled up at Asda at 8 this morning - there was a queue which blocked the exit at one point thanks to someone trying to push in. Took about 5 minutes of waiting through which wasn't too bad. There was a guy who filled his car and 2 jerry cans who was the only one obviously panic buying when I was there. I just needed petrol because my light came on on my way home last night. I guess they got a delivery overnight since people were saying they had run out yesterday. Argh I hope people don't panic buy much more it's really annoying!

 

[tek-monkey]

Its funny really, you have at least 7 days til there will be any disruption whatsoever.

As for the point above about tax revenue, don't we run April to April on that too? In which case this is a massive boost very short term, which will affect the figures for this quarter although most will balance out after. Does mean they could say growth was stronger this quarter, the reasons for it don't need to be discussed.

 

[Gramaisc]

Mmm, I really could do with a can of petrol for a lawn mower, but I don't want to end up looking like Francis Maude.

 

[citricsquid]

Mmm, I really could do with a can of petrol for a lawn mower, but I don't want to end up looking like Francis Maude.

ride your mower in!

 

[Gramaisc]

ride your mower in!

Several difficulties there - it's not mine, it's a long way from a filling station, it's not road legal, it's not a ride-on type, but I reckon you could stand on it and still reach the drive lever (I'll try it) - good thinking though...

 

[citricsquid]

Several difficulties there - it's not mine, it's a long way from a filling station, it's not road legal, it's not a ride-on type, but I reckon you could stand on it and still reach the drive lever (I'll try it) - good thinking though...

 

[Gramaisc]

OK, I can probably do most of it off-road...

 

[henryscat]

Great strategy... so the supermarkets will get deliveries but most customers won't have any fuel to go and do the shop!

With the amount of fuel people have being buying they bloody well ought to have enough to get to the shops...

Failing that take shopping home on the bus.

 

[staffordjas]

Freedom Caravans/Radford Bank Garage had more cars in than usual , but still only about 5 or 6 ,when I walked past this morning. They had put the prices up though ,with unleaded going up from 139.9 to 141.9 (didn't notice the diesel prices)

 

[tek-monkey]

Gotta say this strike is having an impressive impact, and all without actually striking.

 

[Gramaisc]

Gotta say this strike is having an impressive impact, and all without actually striking.

"We have nothing to fear, but fear itself."