Rugby Club progress...

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Look what's under the carpet ! Not the peasants for a change !
 

Withnail

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That's beside the point - unless you want to make one here - which, whatever it might do, will not stop it missing the point.

One would rather hope that we don't try 'n' make this into some kind of 'Rugby-be-damned' sort of how's-your father - for the FECKIN RECORD I less than 3 LOVE Rugby. I'll state here and now that Brown should've been penalised for that - i care not that he has been absolved, he knew what he was doing and he did it, and with malice aforethought to boot - you all saw it, i saw it, there it is. If you disagree, you are wearing the kind of powerful blinkers that has made you already give your assent to this development on the planning portal. You have done more than that.

I sympathise - this may be the right thing, but it is in the wrong place.

Much like Brown's boot, if you agree with the decision
 

tek-monkey

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So....Back on track

How high are these proposed ( oh you do make me larf ) flood lights?

It doesn't matter, they are magic floodlights that only illuminate the pitch and nothing more. It has been stated that there will be no light spillage, so at night they will appear to be invisible unless you are actually standing on the pitch. Magic I tell thee!

Even if this was true, there will still be four illuminated rectangles to dissuade passing birds from landing. And let's face it it's not true, while they may limit direct light the marshes will indirectly be lit up to hell. Just look at the air above Stafford rangers when a match is on, then picture that somewhere without Street lights to mitigate. That is what the marshes will look like.
 

PPPPPP

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As Supreme Masters of the Universe (and Doxey), Stafford council is able to control photons, therefore there is zero light scatter outside the rugby pitches.
 

The truth the whole truth

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That's beside the point - unless you want to make one here - which, whatever it might do, will not stop it missing the point.

One would rather hope that we don't try 'n' make this into some kind of 'Rugby-be-damned' sort of how's-your father - for the FECKIN RECORD I less than 3 LOVE Rugby. I'll state here and now that Brown should've been penalised for that - i care not that he has been absolved, he knew what he was doing and he did it, and with malice aforethought to boot - you all saw it, i saw it, there it is. If you disagree, you are wearing the kind of powerful blinkers that has made you already give your assent to this development on the planning portal. You have done more than that.

I sympathise - this may be the right thing, but it is in the wrong place.

Much like Brown's boot, if you agree with the decision

Point being stopping children getting obese is not a material planning consideration ! Looking at the strategy of the RFU the brand is on a high and indeed puts on a good show ! After the staging the World Cup and now the six nations well done and a new facility is required and about time put it in the right place

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ATJ

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Honestly, it's a waste of your energy trying to debunk the 'keep fit' argument when it's only been made in comments supporting the application and not the application itself. The planning committee don't bother debunking every argument in the anti comments. Concentrate on looking for legal errors in the process and formal documents. Just attacking rugby makes you look daft.
 

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Point being stopping children getting obese is not a material planning consideration ! Looking at the strategy of the RFU the brand is on a high and indeed puts on a good show ! After the staging the World Cup and now the six nations well done and a new facility is required and about time put it in the right place

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Sorry but why do you have a problem with rugby?

I wish Stafford Rugby Club all the very best, I just don't think the Marshes is the place it should be moving to.

Objecting to the proposals on the grounds that you don't like Rugby, rather than one of the very many legitimate reasons there are for objection doesn't make you look clever, it makes you look like a tit.

No offence intended.
 

tek-monkey

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I agree. Got no problem with rugby itself, just the place they want to build on. The keeping fit malarky is nonsense too as rugby accounts for a very small percentage of sporting activity, would do better keeping the 5 a side pitch at beaconside as at least it was used by different people. The idea that we will lose multi discipline facilities and end up with just rugby is laughable really, especially when they are blocking the hockey club who need facilities due to said closure of beaconside.

As I've said before, the rugby club aren't exactly making any friends here. I used to go to their bonfires etc. but I shall not let a penny of mine ever support them destroying the marshes and I know a lot of others who feel the same. They may get a shiny new clubhouse but they'll have as much luck renting it out for functions to non rugby players as the council have letting out the bottom floor of Scaffoldshire Place.
 

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The present 'Rugby Club' isn't the same as the one that played at Newport Rd for decades, scraping in a few pennies. Half a million quid at stake now. Anyway, you can't possibly argue with all those totally unsolicited supporting comments appearing on the planning website.
 

tek-monkey

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The present 'Rugby Club' isn't the same as the one that played at Newport Rd for decades, scraping in a few pennies. Half a million quid at stake now. Anyway, you can't possibly argue with all those totally unsolicited supporting comments appearing on the planning website.

I just know that rugby will be replaced by twats in my head forevermore, which is a shame as I don't blame the players as such but they are supporting it so....
 

Withnail

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Point being ... stopping children getting obese is not a material planning consideration !
Quite so.

But it is nonetheless a valid point as to why there is a need to continue such a provision somewhere, rather than it being completely lost.

You follow with a load of screenshotted (Is this a real word? Ed) statements of support for the proposed development - to which one might equally ask 'what's your point'? One supposes you are going with the whole 6P line of -
Anyway, you can't possibly argue with all those totally unsolicited supporting comments appearing on the planning website.
- as if it is in some way surprising that a 'club' of people might try and unite to protect something they hold dear.

This is definitely something for which i am guilty, i even have evidence of my own guilt -
Quite so.

As things stand the 'ayes' have it - 3:1.

There is an underhandedness to this process as well - the 'ayes' had a headstart, let's overtake the feckers!

Vroom vroom!
- as things stand 'the feckers' have done a much better job of rallying support as it's approaching 4:1 last time i looked.
* thanks Stafford forum, you useless bunch of cu... *

TBF this is unsurprising - this forum is a loose conglomeration of Stafford folk, some who give a proverbial about the Marshes, some who almost certainly don't see a problem with it, some who genuinely couldn't give less of a proverbial about the issue even if they really tried.

The Rugby Club has a membership and affiliates that it can call upon to man the barricades. It would be more surprising if they didn't call upon the resources they have. They don't want to lose what they have, and it is understandable that they wish to fight for it.

But they are wrong - and i take great exception to the idea that my objection to this is in any way 'for the sake of objecting' - i'm all for saving the Rugby Club, but this is at too high a price.
 
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