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Illiterate school-leavers and workless households are destabilising UK economy
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Withnail
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See, what i found was that when you take the quote
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...rns-UK-school-standards-threaten-economy.html
which gives you
which when you put into
gives you this
http://www.cedefop.europa.eu/EN/
which doesn't seem to provide the quote given in the story in the OP.
Quite apart from which, despite the use of the Euroflag, it is not immediately or abundantly apparent whether this particular organisation can even remotely be equated to
Bollocks.
that what was in the Daily Mail said:
(with apologies for wierdness of text size) and put it into you get this
you get thishttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...rns-UK-school-standards-threaten-economy.html
which gives you
that what was in the Daily Telegraph said:
which when you put into
gives you thishttp://www.cedefop.europa.eu/EN/
which doesn't seem to provide the quote given in the story in the OP.
Quite apart from which, despite the use of the Euroflag, it is not immediately or abundantly apparent whether this particular organisation can even remotely be equated to
which kind of makes you wonder whether this might just possibly be what is known in the trade as...Daily Telegraph said:
Bollocks.
henryscat
Well-Known Forumite
I'd like to recommend that Daily Mail readers install this on their computers:
http://www.tomroyal.com/blog/2010/09/28/kittens-vs-the-daily-mail/
It may go some way to stopping people actually believing the utter drivel they print.
http://www.tomroyal.com/blog/2010/09/28/kittens-vs-the-daily-mail/
It may go some way to stopping people actually believing the utter drivel they print.
henryscat
Well-Known Forumite
A more serious article on the subject of the economy in today's paper:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/02/austerity-failed-will-hutton
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/02/austerity-failed-will-hutton
John Marwood
I ♥ cryptic crosswords
No sewing together of legs at 13 - unpicking only after an 'entrance' exam ?
You seem to be mellowing old chap
henryscat
Well-Known Forumite
Another article, from the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/opinion/krugman-the-austerity-agenda.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/opinion/krugman-the-austerity-agenda.html
I would never read that left-wing rag!
henryscat
Well-Known Forumite
Since when is the Daily Mail left wing...? Their history is one of supporting facists.
proactive
Enjoying a drop of red.
LOL, if you look at Hetairoi's history on here it's perfectly understandable that he thinks the DM is left wing.
Either that or he doesn't know the difference between left and right
Withnail
Well-Known Forumite
Since the 5th of January at the very least
http://www.staffordforum.com/xf/ind...ns-to-sue-over-20mph-limits.8197/#post-139401
zebidee
Well-Known Forumite
I never said it was a bad thing...my point was they wouldn't be compliant to an imposed authority, thus harsher punishments and more discipline would be a pretty pointless exercise.
Glam
Mad Cat Woman
I always thought Hetairoi were female?!LOL, if you look at Hetairoi's history on here it's perfectly understandable that he thinks the DM is left wing.
Either that or he doesn't know the difference between left and right
He wouldn't be the only one as I class myself as a natural working class Labour supporter but have seen my party hijacked by liberal metropolitons like the Millibands, Harman etc who i accept mean well but haven't got a clue what concerns working people(that goes for the liberals and tories as well. Whilst politicans talk about gay marriage and carbon footprints people are concerned about more jobs for their young, more and better housing, a brake on the number of immigrants coming into this country.LOL, if you look at Hetairoi's history on here it's perfectly understandable that he thinks the DM is left wing.
Either that or he doesn't know the difference between left and right
John Cruddas recently reported how Labour had taken it's core support for granted and that was evident at the last election with Labour losing seats in counties such as Staffordshire and Essex
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
I long ago realised that no political party reflected my views, and a lot of people seem to have the same opinion. If only a party existed that listened to what people wanted, and tried to give it to them, rather than going for glory and a nice payout at the end.
henryscat
Well-Known Forumite
Anybody of that opinion could of course set up their own party, stand for election, or just campaign on any issue you feel strongly about. It's all very well bemoaning that nobody represents your views and then sitting there in the expectation that someone else should represent them for you, but is it always up to someone else to take the initiative?
Gramaisc
Forum O. G.
Whilst that is clearly true, it is also true that it is extremely difficult for an independent candidate to get elected here. We've had the recent special cases of Martin Bell and the Kidderminster doctor, of course, but very few others. There's also the danger that an independent would simply take votes from what he might see as the 'least worst' party and end up making things worse, from his point of view..
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
Where do you find the time to do that, with a 9-5 job that always runs over and of course very limited funds? Plus just because lots of people have views that aren't represented doesn't mean they share the same views. The major issue of course is that most people wont risk what they see as a wasted vote, so the main 2 parties will have a clear advantage until such time another party can establish itself properly. You are talking quite a few elections there, just for a single county, and some peoples views are remarkably entrenched even when their reasoning is as simple as 'but my dad always voted labour'.
If we'd had AV maybe I'd feel differently, but we don't.
If we'd had AV maybe I'd feel differently, but we don't.
Gramaisc
Forum O. G.
The people were, unusually, asked directly if they would like to change to a very marginally better system, the AV of which yoiu speak. The majority of those that bothered to vote on it preferred to stick with the current arrangements.
Some people don't understand democracy, you have to beat it into them!
Or just not bother.
Would Luke Flanagan get elected here?
henryscat
Well-Known Forumite
Yes, I'd agree that our current voting system isn't helpful. With election turnouts, especially local ones, being not exactly overwhelming the "nobody represents my views" voters who stay at home and abstain also mean that the worse candidate may get in!! It concerns me the number of people who sit at home and say that nobody represents them but then do nothing. Even if you don't wish to get involved in politics (personally speaking I have no desire to) then there are other avenues - even just creating some publicity on a local issue is a start, politicians get all wibbly about adverse publicity and the possibility of losing votes.....
Obviously if you have a million or three lying around you could just donate it to the party of your choice who in a lot of cases would then suddenly become a whole lot more receptive to your policy ideas.....
