American Presidential Election

1JKz

Well-Known Forumite
Don't worry, i got a feeling this guy (Trump) is all about the fight and not the win, more about the planning than the doing.
Rest easy.

The guys behind the scenes decide everything, no one here ever tuned into the conspiracy channel on WhoTube?
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Don't worry, i got a feeling this guy (Trump) is all about the fight and not the win, more about the planning than the doing.
Rest easy.

The guys behind the scenes decide everything, no one here ever tuned into the conspiracy channel on WhoTube?

Have you seen his team?
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
Two states left to conclude. Michigan and New Hampshire.

Clinton currently only 337,636 votes in front of Trump, with very few left to count, which isn't far enough ahead to win under US democracy, apparently.

Trump 59,937,338

Clinton 60,274,974
 

andy w

Well-Known Forumite
Do you not think that both Trump and Farage count as a self-serving, detached elite?
I'm not doubting they aren't, but they and especially Farage spotted that a large segment of the electorate had been become detached from the mainstream political parties and that their opinions were not being listened to.
 

1JKz

Well-Known Forumite
#largesegmentoftheelectoratehadbeenbecomedetachedfromthemainstreampoliticalpartiesandthattheiropinionswerenotbeinglistenedto
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
I'm not doubting they aren't, but they and especially Farage spotted that a large segment of the electorate had been become detached from the mainstream political parties and that their opinions were not being listened to.
Time will tell whether Trump delivers but if he does then it will be at the expense of a massively increased defect which will eventually come to bite hardworking Americans in the ass (but not hardworking, dodgy toupee wearing billionaires, I bet).

As for Farage he couldn't bugger off quick enough to avoid having to deal with any of the problems Brexit may bring though, strangely, he seems happy enough to keep his own personal Euro-handout for being an MEP 'till the bitter end.

Hardly knights in shining armour both.
 

zebidee

Well-Known Forumite
What if there was a "none of the above" option?

I'm not sure if compulsory voting should come in or that it would actually work. But when such a large proportion of people don't vote, how can an election be truly representative of the wishes of the people when lots don't bother to vote?

I saw the graphic below on Twitter. It says stats are from the Electoral Commission (I haven't checked) but if they are true, it's a big number of people who aren't having their say - or don't want to, of course.View attachment 3556

I know it's not the point...but by the same logic they've used, the second pie also shows that 65% didn't vote remain...

*wanders off whistling (to find that sand to stick my head back in)
 

Jonah

Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
I know it's not the point...but by the same logic they've used, the second pie also shows that 65% didn't vote remain...

*wanders off whistling (to find that sand to stick my head back in)
True but we also don't know how those that didn't vote would have voted. For the referendum, I am guessing it may have been a similar split to the people who did actually vote.
 

andy w

Well-Known Forumite
To be fair a 72% turnout in the referendum is pretty healthy and a sign that the electorate was involved. Indeed it was profound that it was in rock solid Labour seats in the North and the Midlands that seen the biggest rise in turnout compared to the 2015 General Election such as Barnsley that went from 54% to 69%.
 
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