Coronavirus.

SketchyMagpie

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Yeah I thought as much, I'm lucky it's just a small patch but it does flare up painfully in hot water so having to wash my hands in cold at the minute.

Looks like dad caught Covid off me last week the day I got back (the day before I started getting symptomatic). Feel so bad about it as they'd both previously managed to avoid it throughout the entire thing and now they got it because I wanted to go to a bloody gig. Ugh. To make matters worse, he was apparently walking around the house symptomatic for nearly two days because his test was saying negative even though I've told them Omicron is taking a few days to show up for most people. I'm sure he'll be fine and mum too if she hasn't already been infected but they've got their first holiday since 2019 a week on Friday so GOD I hope I haven't effed that up for them!
 

littleme

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Try not to beat yourself up about it :hug:you didn't do it on purpose and you did try very hard to avoid getting it. Chalk it up to fardling awful luck. Keep on getting better and hope your dad feels better soon.
Yes, I totally agree @Gadget, @SketchyMagpie has been a model of restraint and shouldn't beat himself up over it.... I have friends that still wear masks at our work, but on a recent holiday felt pressured not to wear one so didn't, and guess what? ..... Its so difficult now as so few people wear them & they try to make those that do feel uncomfortabke/strange/different.

Fingers crossed @SketchyMagpie , I was lucky after serving the lady with covid (my choice to help) I'm still negative, so far.
 

gilbert grape

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Vaccination is intended to stop serious illness, not prevent transmission. That it does have an impact on transmission is just a bonus.

The data for vaccination drives bringing down deaths during covid waves is beyond definitive at this point.

As for GG, it's not that he has "honest opinions" that's the issue, it's that he expects of us (to acknowledge his 'evidence') what he's not willing to do in return and insults us if we present counter evidence.
As you accuse me, almost like I'm an aggressor - you are an absolute tool of a human!
 

SketchyMagpie

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That's weird because my dad's main symptom has been feeling sick, too, which I didn't have at all. I wonder if that's more likely with older generations.

Ah shit, hope they did avoid giving it to her mate. If it's any reassurance, my Nan is 98 and very frail with cancer and dementia but she's survived infection twice, once in recent months. There can be hope even if you can ever imagine that they would make it through.
 

littleme

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That's weird because my dad's main symptom has been feeling sick, too, which I didn't have at all. I wonder if that's more likely with older generations.

Ah shit, hope they did avoid giving it to her mate. If it's any reassurance, my Nan is 98 and very frail with cancer and dementia but she's survived infection twice, once in recent months. There can be hope even if you can ever imagine that they would make it through.
2 of my work colleagues that have covid at the moment, say that sickness/feeling sick & banging headache were their first symptoms.
 

rudie111

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Father in law has it now. Pushing 80 so quite a concern. A few days in and touch wood seems not too bad. Mother in law has cold symptoms, runny nose and sore throat but is testing negative at present. When did parents become such a worry 😩
 

littleme

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Father in law has it now. Pushing 80 so quite a concern. A few days in and touch wood seems not too bad. Mother in law has cold symptoms, runny nose and sore throat but is testing negative at present. When did parents become such a worry 😩
For me they became a worry 10 years ago when they reached 70, 10 years later they seem to take more risks & chances & I worry about them more than my kids.
 

gilbert grape

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I find it hard to believe that all the "new cases" will be legit and there will be loads of summer colds that will be passed off as covid and this will cause fear and distraction, as this very thread shows.
I'm currently in pain, on painkillers and the effects of everything happening to me means I possibly wouldn't know if I had genuine case.
Sensory functioning will have a lot to do with your perception of how ill you are and we all have varying amounts of such feelings.
The Government, in the meantime, have had 2 years to react and start opening wards and hire the thousands of staff that they promised. If we are as scared as we were before all this, we have not learned. 2 people on tonight's question time spoke of introducing compulsory masks again in Scotland and singing the praises of our brilliant vaccines and getting more into people. Both still unproven and both strike the fear into many who have done loads of research.
 

SketchyMagpie

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Apparently you objected to me claiming that you don't acknowledge evidence @gilbert grape so I know you will receive the following with interest:

Last year a randomised clinical trial of nearly 350,000 people in Bangladesh concluded that surgical face masks reduce the spread of Covid-19 and are most effective when accompanied by clear and efficient messaging.


Here's another study where 1.1 million students in 3,000 schools were the subjects specifically during the Delta/Omicron waves in the second half of last year. They found that schools with a mask mandate saw 72% fewer secondary infections (that is, students infected with Covid-19 passing it on to other students) than schools with no or partial mandates.


And here's a study from the BMJ, a journal you have previously shown trust in, which also concludes that masks are effective at preventing the spread of Covid-19: "The researchers reported that fabric face masks “blocked between 62.6% and 87.1% of fine particles, whereas surgical masks protected against an average of 78.2% of fine particles. N95 masks blocked 99.6% of fine particles.”"


I hope you feel better soon.
 
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tek-monkey

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I find it hard to believe that all the "new cases" will be legit and there will be loads of summer colds that will be passed off as covid and this will cause fear and distraction, as this very thread shows.
I'm currently in pain, on painkillers and the effects of everything happening to me means I possibly wouldn't know if I had genuine case.
Sensory functioning will have a lot to do with your perception of how ill you are and we all have varying amounts of such feelings.
The Government, in the meantime, have had 2 years to react and start opening wards and hire the thousands of staff that they promised. If we are as scared as we were before all this, we have not learned. 2 people on tonight's question time spoke of introducing compulsory masks again in Scotland and singing the praises of our brilliant vaccines and getting more into people. Both still unproven and both strike the fear into many who have done loads of research.
How can we hire staff if nobody wants to live here, we can't just magic up a load of poorly paid highly trained people.
 

tek-monkey

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Apparently you objected to me claiming that you don't acknowledge evidence @gilbert grape so I know you will receive the following with interest:

Last year a randomised clinical trial of nearly 350,000 people in Bangladesh concluded that surgical face masks reduce the spread of Covid-19 and are most effective when accompanied by clear and efficient messaging.


Here's another study where 1.1 million students in 3,000 schools were the subjects specifically during the Delta/Omicron waves in the second half of last year. They found that schools with a mask mandate saw 72% fewer secondary infections (that is, students infected with Covid-19 passing it on to other students) than schools with no or partial mandates.


And here's a study from the BMJ, a journal you have previously shown trust in, which also concludes that masks are effective at preventing the spread of Covid-19: "The researchers reported that fabric face masks “blocked between 62.6% and 87.1% of fine particles, whereas surgical masks protected against an average of 78.2% of fine particles. N95 masks blocked 99.6% of fine particles.”"


I hope you feel better soon.
But he's done lots of research! He won't share it in case you point out flaws, but he definitely did lots and his is right. Everything that shows vaccines or masks are effective is merely statistical anomalies.
 

Thehooperman

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I find it hard to believe that all the "new cases" will be legit and there will be loads of summer colds that will be passed off as covid and this will cause fear and distraction, as this very thread shows.
I'm currently in pain, on painkillers and the effects of everything happening to me means I possibly wouldn't know if I had genuine case.
Sensory functioning will have a lot to do with your perception of how ill you are and we all have varying amounts of such feelings.
The Government, in the meantime, have had 2 years to react and start opening wards and hire the thousands of staff that they promised. If we are as scared as we were before all this, we have not learned. 2 people on tonight's question time spoke of introducing compulsory masks again in Scotland and singing the praises of our brilliant vaccines and getting more into people. Both still unproven and both strike the fear into many who have done loads of research.
I don't fully understand what you're trying to say here @gilbert grape.

If I read the first part of your post correctly you're saying people will think they've got COVID but it may be just a cold. Then because they think they've got COVID they are in fear.

If they are in fear won't they then be more likely to take precautions such as isolating, mask wearing, spacial distancing, etc. All good practices with me because no matter what they've actually got I don't want to catch it.

For the second part of your post, where are these trained staff coming from? We didn't have them before Brexit/COVID so where do you think they are?
 
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