Coronavirus.

[Jonah]

The blindness continues. I'd put a hell of a lot of money on all those figureheads that forced the message down our throats did not and do not religiously get all the jabs on offer.
The whole idiotic claim of shouting "anit-vaxxer" at people who did not want this particular medication, due to it's lack of safety clearance, makes you look stupid to anybody with a balanced view.
In fact it's yet another example of how people stopped being kind to each other. The abuse people have got for taking their own path, when it's increasingly been proved that the government guidance was a crock of shite! Never any education on natural immunity or how to boost your own health, all money spent on you "getting it into your arm!" Billions wasted on contracts, filtered into pockets but never re-couped and those in high positions flouting the laws that they made but miraculously all surviving.
But still, you get pathetic comments like granny killer!

Are you against all vaccinations or just Covid?

 

[SketchyMagpie]

The blindness continues. I'd put a hell of a lot of money on all those figureheads that forced the message down our throats did not and do not religiously get all the jabs on offer.
The whole idiotic claim of shouting "anit-vaxxer" at people who did not want this particular medication, due to it's lack of safety clearance, makes you look stupid to anybody with a balanced view.
In fact it's yet another example of how people stopped being kind to each other. The abuse people have got for taking their own path, when it's increasingly been proved that the government guidance was a crock of shite! Never any education on natural immunity or how to boost your own health, all money spent on you "getting it into your arm!" Billions wasted on contracts, filtered into pockets but never re-couped and those in high positions flouting the laws that they made but miraculously all surviving.
But still, you get pathetic comments like granny killer!

Gilbert, you literally just jumped in to call us “blind” for getting jabbed again and to deride that decision.

Then you complain about people “not being kind to each other” and being mocked for the decisions they make.

You see the hypocrisy there, right?

 

[gilbert grape]

Are you against all vaccinations or just Covid?

Covid and how it came about, was created and promoted, plus the massive effort in pushing it and covering up anything negative, around it/them!

 

[DoggedWalker]

Covid and how it came about, was created and promoted, plus the massive effort in pushing it and covering up anything negative, around it/them!

‘How it came about’

What, you mean a global response to a pandemic that showed what science, technology and hell, even this dysfunctional government, can do when up against it.

One of the things they allowed to happen should be allowed routinely, and that is the side-by-side running of trial phases that dramatically sped the process of authorisation up. There are trials running now that would benefit significantly from that and would save lives and make chronically ill people much more comfortable.

‘Massive effort pushing it’

It’s remarkable isn’t it that the most effective means of reducing the risk of becoming seriously ill with Covid and then adding pressure to health services was something that was pushed for by the State. This was done on a global scale but that probably makes you think ‘new world order’ *sigh.*

‘Cover up’

Nothing has been covered up. Stats around adverse reactions are available, it’s one of the things your fellow conspiracy loving morons cling on to to prove their point.

 

[tek-monkey]

Nothing has been covered up. Stats around adverse reactions are available, it’s one of the things your fellow conspiracy loving morons cling on to to prove their point.

Are 'stats' available now? I've seen the anecdotal reporting service, but have never seen anything that you could call actual statistics without being sacked (then employed at tory HQ).

Unless we mean vaccine injury payouts? I guess they are real, we know they happened so can certainly be a 'real' statistic I suppose.

 

[acpoynton]

They're doing them on Tesco carpark at the moment I believe.... walk-in welcome.

I should have thought to ask them when I could have mine after having covid again recently...

Don’t think that is Covid jabs. I went on Wednesday and they did a few weights and measurements and took some blood. Then I filled in a questionnaire and got a £10 voucher for my troubles.

Look at this post on Facebook https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...s5o2Lzf1ql&id=100090319262098&mibextid=WC7FNe

 

[littleme]

Don’t think that is Covid jabs. I went on Wednesday and they did a few weights and measurements and took some blood. Then I filled in a questionnaire and got a £10 voucher for my troubles.

Look at this post on Facebook https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...s5o2Lzf1ql&id=100090319262098&mibextid=WC7FNe

D'uh! Daughter told me if was covid jabs!

 

[DoggedWalker]

Are 'stats' available now? I've seen the anecdotal reporting service, but have never seen anything that you could call actual statistics without being sacked (then employed at tory HQ).

Unless we mean vaccine injury payouts? I guess they are real, we know they happened so can certainly be a 'real' statistic I suppose.

COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech monovalent | Making medicines and medical devices safer

MHRA Homepage for reporting of suspected side effects or adverse drug reactions to any medicines or vaccines, as well as medical device incidents

yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk

 

[tek-monkey]

COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech monovalent | Making medicines and medical devices safer

MHRA Homepage for reporting of suspected side effects or adverse drug reactions to any medicines or vaccines, as well as medical device incidents

yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk

Seen that site but it pretty clearly states:

"It is important to note that reported adverse reactions have not been proven to be related to the vaccine and should not be interpreted as a list of known side effects."

And:

• Reporters are asked to submit Yellow Card reports even if they only have a suspicion that the vaccine may have caused the adverse reaction. The existence of an adverse reaction report does not necessarily mean that the vaccine has caused the reaction.
• It may be difficult to tell the difference between something that has occurred naturally and an adverse reaction. Sometimes reactions can be part of the condition being treated rather than being caused by the vaccine.
• Many factors have to be considered when assessing whether a vaccine has caused a reported adverse reaction. When monitoring the safety of medicines and vaccines, MHRA staff carry out careful analysis of these factors.
• It is not possible to compare the safety of different vaccines by comparing the numbers presented in the vaccine reports. Reporting rates can be influenced by many factors including the seriousness of the adverse reactions, their ease of recognition and the extent of use of a particular vaccine. Reporting can also be stimulated by promotion and publicity about a product.

Anyone can report anything and nothing is verified, they just use it as a yardstick on where to focus attention, which ironically means people doing false reports to make it look worse could actually be covering up real issues.

 

[rudie111]

Just gonna drop this and run!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...n-despite-claims-Covid-jabs-fuelled-rise.html

 

[DoggedWalker]

Seen that site but it pretty clearly states:

"It is important to note that reported adverse reactions have not been proven to be related to the vaccine and should not be interpreted as a list of known side effects."

And:

• Reporters are asked to submit Yellow Card reports even if they only have a suspicion that the vaccine may have caused the adverse reaction. The existence of an adverse reaction report does not necessarily mean that the vaccine has caused the reaction.
• It may be difficult to tell the difference between something that has occurred naturally and an adverse reaction. Sometimes reactions can be part of the condition being treated rather than being caused by the vaccine.
• Many factors have to be considered when assessing whether a vaccine has caused a reported adverse reaction. When monitoring the safety of medicines and vaccines, MHRA staff carry out careful analysis of these factors.
• It is not possible to compare the safety of different vaccines by comparing the numbers presented in the vaccine reports. Reporting rates can be influenced by many factors including the seriousness of the adverse reactions, their ease of recognition and the extent of use of a particular vaccine. Reporting can also be stimulated by promotion and publicity about a product.

Anyone can report anything and nothing is verified, they just use it as a yardstick on where to focus attention, which ironically means people doing false reports to make it look worse could actually be covering up real issues.

The point though is that the State is open about the data, regardless of whether it’s the vaccine being unsafe or people inflating the figures with false reports. There is no cover up of the numbers as the sour grape suggests.

 

[Jonah]

Covid and how it came about, was created and promoted, plus the massive effort in pushing it and covering up anything negative, around it/them!

Thanks for replying, I wasn’t sure if you would or not.

When you say “how it came about”, do you mean how the Covid virus itself developed or do you mean how the vaccine was? Do you believe Covid was a man-made, deliberately released virus?

 

[gilbert grape]

Thanks for replying, I wasn’t sure if you would or not.

When you say “how it came about”, do you mean how the Covid virus itself developed or do you mean how the vaccine was? Do you believe Covid was a man-made, deliberately released virus?

If you’re looking at the hearings going on right now and not even more confused by it all, I think you’ll have a very rigid view. How it came about, how it was handled and how we were controlled comes even more into question!
Denial, delays, mis-reporting and representation. A sham and lots of it backing up what I, and many others, have said about inconsistency, corruption and treatment.
The scientists had lots of uncertainties. The government didn’t provide them with predictions so they could provide figures. The government dictated what we did and then didn’t act on those guidelines, themselves!

The crap I’ve had off people on here for casting doubt while that bunch of con artists lead us astray, is remarkable.

 

[Jonah]

If you’re looking at the hearings going on right now and not even more confused by it all, I think you’ll have a very rigid view. How it came about, how it was handled and how we were controlled comes even more into question!
Denial, delays, mis-reporting and representation. A sham and lots of it backing up what I, and many others, have said about inconsistency, corruption and treatment.
The scientists had lots of uncertainties. The government didn’t provide them with predictions so they could provide figures. The government dictated what we did and then didn’t act on those guidelines, themselves!

The crap I’ve had off people on here for casting doubt while that bunch of con artists lead us astray, is remarkable.

You’ve not answered my question.

 

[Theresa Green]

Nobody has convincingly proved the virus to be not man made , nor have they proven it to have started via animal contact

Nothing conclusive because of intensive Chinese Government interventions

If the virus was manufactured then an individual may have deliberately released it, possible but probably not likely, however, as with anything involving humans ( includes scientists, support staff, politicians, people chatting on websites ) there will always be mistakes. When big mistakes happen, bigger cover ups will follow

Saying that we may never know might be correct

Saying no one will ever know less so

Eat Out to Kill People with Doctor Death is available in hardback from all good morticians

 

[tek-monkey]

Do we know how many man hours went into the vaccines, in comparison to say something like AIDS research?

 

[gilbert grape]

You’ve not answered my question.

I personally think they were pissing about with germs and it got out. Miraculously, some of the world's richest got a whole load richer while no politicians or scientists got seriously ill or died. If you never question anything, I guess you deserve the eventual smack in the face when the truth filter out. And don't come at me with the old "they got jabbed" bullshit!

Wealth of world's 10 richest men doubled in pandemic, Oxfam says

Covid-19 has made the rich richer while poverty has increased, the charity Oxfam says.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[tek-monkey]

I personally think they were pissing about with germs and it got out. Miraculously, some of the world's richest got a whole load richer while no politicians or scientists got seriously ill or died. If you never question anything, I guess you deserve the eventual smack in the face when the truth filter out. And don't come at me with the old "they got jabbed" bullshit!

Wealth of world's 10 richest men doubled in pandemic, Oxfam says

Covid-19 has made the rich richer while poverty has increased, the charity Oxfam says.

www.bbc.co.uk

Politicians Have Died of COVID-19 - FactCheck.org

A meme circulating on Facebook falsely claims, "Not one politician has died from the virus." Actually, at least five current or former politicians across the country have died due to COVID-19.

www.factcheck.org

 

[gilbert grape]

Politicians Have Died of COVID-19 - FactCheck.org

A meme circulating on Facebook falsely claims, "Not one politician has died from the virus." Actually, at least five current or former politicians across the country have died due to COVID-19.

www.factcheck.org

That’s in US hence I hadn’t heard. In a country 5 times bigger than ours, I’d expect higher numbers - of, or with - if we had any sort of outbreak.

 

[tek-monkey]

That’s in US hence I hadn’t heard. In a country 5 times bigger than ours, I’d expect higher numbers - of, or with - if we had any sort of outbreak.

I guess that's more for Raven, all his opinions have a strong US slant.

Ok, look at it another way. What percentage of the uk population died and what percentage are politicians?