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Yeah, but thats just a completely unavoidable consequence of our world beating response! Now, lets see about removing some benefits to offset it...
Funny you should say that...BMJ
That good old right wing source that I’m sure you’ll debunk!
Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial
Revelations of poor practices at a contract research company helping to carry out Pfizer’s pivotal covid-19 vaccine trial raise questions about data integrity and regulatory oversight. Paul D Thacker reports In autumn 2020 Pfizer’s chairman and chief executive, Albert Bourla, released an open...www.bmj.com
I lost interest as soon as I read “anti-vaxxers”!!!Funny you should say that...
What the heck happened to The BMJ?
Last week, The BMJ published an "exposé" by Paul Thacker alleging patient unblinding, data falsification, and other wrongdoing by a company running three sites for the massive clinical trial of the Psciencebasedmedicine.org
I don't expect you'll read it, let alone take it on board, but this was debunked some months ago. If nothing else, take this as a tl;dr - marginally questionable, and probably limited, practices at 3 sites administering 1,000 subjects, in the context of hundreds of sites administering tens of thousands of subjects, does not a data integrity issue make.
Careful what you swallow.
Evidently not.I lost interest as soon as I read “anti-vaxxers”!!!
We are past that stupidity!!
Good to see you're taking such a balanced view by reading both sides of the discussion @gilbert grapeI lost interest as soon as I read “anti-vaxxers”!!!
We are past that stupidity!!
I was under the impression that T cells learnt from previous infections, not just being in contact with people who were themselves infected, as that would give you a whole chicken/egg scenario of the infection or the T cells to fight that infection coming first. Care to share this quite reliable source?so does boosting your own system and also your T cells being increased to help your own immunity when you have contact with people who have it, so I am informed quite reliably.
Just out of curiosity, did you take on board any of the studies I showed you the other day - including one from the BMJ, which you obviously trust as a source - which overwhelmingly concluded that masks reduce the spread of coronavirus?I was at an event with lots of people who had, had previously had or were supporting people with cancer last weekend and there was an over riding spirit of getting on with life. I think you could count the number of masks on one hand. People want to get on! Many of those people have done their own risk assessments and decided to take their own risks.
The couple one side of me had covid a week before and the friend to my left has tested positive this week. I and he daughter who I was with are still clear. While fortune has one part to play in not catching it, so does boosting your own system and also your T cells being increased to help your own immunity when you have contact with people who have it, so I am informed quite reliably.
Because they disagree with what he is told from a source he trusts more than scientists, either a youtube channel or a guy in the pub most likely. Don't ever expect a response to a direct questioning of this core belief, at best expect a whataboutism, there is no difference to religion here. Belief without proof, or rather the belief becomes the proof.If not, please do tell us why.
I've not said a rude to you in this exchange, gg.Jesus Christ!!
Remember when we were kids and a gang kept prodding somebody they thought was weaker, and was always wrong, but then turned out to be right?
I guess you lot don’t!!
You won’t believe that either if I don’t post a link!!
Science requires evidenceJesus Christ!!
Remember when we were kids and a gang kept prodding somebody they thought was weaker, and was always wrong, but then turned out to be right?
I guess you lot don’t!!
You won’t believe that either if I don’t post a link!!
But none of that says being around people who have covid makes your t cells better, it says they learn from infection. So the only way they'd get better if you're around people is if you yourself contract the virus? It also doesn't explain omnicron hitting so hard but it is nearly 2 years old and we didn't have all the variants back then.An insight into the T Cell info. I also take a combination of nutrients that boost me every day.
T cell immunity: What is it and how does it help to protect us from COVID-19? | Imperial News | Imperial College London
Over the past few months, you’ll have heard a lot about the importance of antibodies and how they can help us to understand our immunity to COVID-19.www.imperial.ac.uk
Here's another article from Imperial London College in which they state: "when masks of any kind are worn, they slow the breath’s momentum and filter a portion of the exhaled droplets, in turn reducing the amount of virus in aerosols that can spread through the space."An insight into the T Cell info. I also take a combination of nutrients that boost me every day.
T cell immunity: What is it and how does it help to protect us from COVID-19? | Imperial News | Imperial College London
Over the past few months, you’ll have heard a lot about the importance of antibodies and how they can help us to understand our immunity to COVID-19.www.imperial.ac.uk
How many of us have had it without knowing it?But none of that says being around people who have covid makes your t cells better, it says they learn from infection. So the only way they'd get better if you're around people is if you yourself contract the virus? It also doesn't explain omnicron hitting so hard but it is nearly 2 years old and we didn't have all the variants back then.