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Gramaisc

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Queues seem not to be unknown through the British checks in France - sometimes with a silver lining.

Edit - This Tweet, by a fake GB News account, now suspended, showed a picture of trucks queueing in France and stated that one was carrying supplies for a Rees-Mogg banquet, that would not now arrive in time for the event - it seems to have been deleted now, as it also seems to have been a spoof story. Hard to know what's real now...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1551300577514102786

Finding space for them at Dover, off the ships, could be an issue.
 
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Raven

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tek-monkey said:
Once you swap where checks take place you will have every arrival at Dover needing to be processed. Where do they park? There are no issues to date because we check them in France, meaning Dover can get away with having virtually nowhere to do security checks on incoming vehicles. Dover is the problem, doesn't matter if it's inbound or outbound you carry out the checks there has to be a waiting area. Dover itself has nowhere to contain people arriving before it processes them, so doing them leaving instead means they can park them on the road network.

The number of vehicles going each way is pretty constant, the same amount that leave also arrive, where do you think they should queue?
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Ok I will try one more time………
From the link posted about having “more” French booths in Dover. It would appear that there are not enough (in Dover) hence the hold ups !
So lets double them then the argument goes, fine, in fact treble them to be on the safe side but the article does not address the parking while waiting issu.

The argument should be (IMO) why are they not all in France as they have always been, where they moved here when we were in the EU (?) if so change them.
So are we on the same page (?) it is “outgoing” that is the problem, not incoming and we have always done security checks on “incoming” at Dover (except for the tunnel)

Do not confuse the Eurotunnel setup with Dover (as you seem to be doing)

Just where do you think asylum seekers (you mean economic migrants of course) are processed ?, in France !, if that is what you think then you are deluded.
 
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And I'll have another last try, too. With the British checks moved back to Dover, are they likely to cope with the same level of traffic, with the queues on the ship-side of the booths?
 
tek-monkey

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Raven said:
Just where do you think asylum seekers (you mean economic migrants of course) are processed ?, in France !, if that is what you think then you are deluded.
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We rely on France to stop them coming here because once they reach our shores they can actually claim asylum, thats why we try not to let them, because we've deliberately made it as hard as possible for them to apply unless they set foot on British soil. Presently our guys in France can stop them just jumping on a ferry, you want that stopped by moving all our guys back here. Most countries don't care who leaves, just who enter, so you want it to be up to France to decide if these people can just board a ferry across rather than pay thousands to smugglers? They get to our side, get told they can't enter, they say whatever I claim asylum because I'm now in the UK.
 
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tek-monkey said:
We rely on France to stop them coming here because once they reach our shores they can actually claim asylum, thats why we try not to let them, because we've deliberately made it as hard as possible for them to apply unless they set foot on British soil. Presently our guys in France can stop them just jumping on a ferry, you want that stopped by moving all our guys back here. Most countries don't care who leaves, just who enter, so you want it to be up to France to decide if these people can just board a ferry across rather than pay thousands to smugglers? They get to our side, get told they can't enter, they say whatever I claim asylum because I'm now in the UK.
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Even that doesn't always apply.

Ask the Syrians who went straight to UK sovereign territory in Cyprus, without passing through any other country on the way.
 
The Hawk

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tek-monkey said:
I believe its because if we did all the checks upon landing dover has nowhere for people to park? So, as G said, they'd all have to wait on the ship meaning it can't prepare for snother sailing.

Just wait til they start biometric checks for third nationals, that's going to mean leaving the cars I guess?
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It is my understanding that there is currently no infrastructure in place, at Dover (and presumably other UK ports) to carry out biometric checks. If that is the case, then a shortage of a few booths at Dover is going to be the least of our worries.
 
tek-monkey

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
The gammon uproar on FB at Spain daring to ask that skint hobos don't visit is hysterical, but also proves how few looked at what they were voting for.
 
proactive

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kyoto49 said:
It's a lack of control points, not French staff to man the points. They are fully manned by the French, our government just chose not to spend the £33m Dover Port requested to add additional passport control points. The current disaster at Dover is all of our own governments making.
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This.
 
BobClay

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We've got pix of Farage and Rees-Mogg on the same page here.

ARE YOU LOT TRYING TO TURN ME INTO A PSYCHO KILLER !!! ...... COS YER ON THE RIGHT TRACK. :eek::eek::grr::grr::o:o
 
Gramaisc

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tek-monkey said:
It's funny how what they believed as the absolute truth back then has changed so dramatically now, and they accept that without question, but they don't believe the version those same people are pushing now could possibly also turn out to also be a lie.
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Billy Graham explains how to deal with doubt that may shake your faith.

Does doubt come from the devil, or do we have doubts because of something that's wrong in our hearts?

Billy Graham writes, "The very first question in the Bible came from the mouth of Satan ... Does this mean the devil is directly responsible for every doubt we have? Not necessarily."
billygraham.org billygraham.org
 
Theresa Green

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Noah said:
Yeah, they want to let in more bankers & financiers.
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This is true

But not physically let foreign money men

Just an assist in selling off UK assets so that there can be no tax revenues from them

Odd if you are a Government in need of funds

But not odd if you a short term grab and run Government like this Odey Us bunch
 
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