Potential New Housing - Consultation

[gilesjuk]

Centralisation can and will make the traffic worse. Especially as it is right in the centre of town.

 

[Jimbo]

I live on the Saxonfields estate and had a leaflet. I'm away next week so I can't go to the consultation but some neighbours are going and I've asked them to pass on my views: 'We don't want the houses, and we'll fight them. We don't want a road either, and we'll fight that in the unlikely event it ever happens'.

The EDR just isn't going to happen, the local council can't afford to build it, and Government aren't going to be giving out money like confetti any time soon to build it. Barratt own the land already, they have since the Saxonfields estate was built. Back then they knew about the proposed route and so didn't build, I suspect to do some kind of land-swap deal.

 

[henryscat]

Centralisation can and will make the traffic worse. Especially as it is right in the centre of town.

The centre of town is exactly the right place to have an office if you want to reduce the number of people driving to it.

 

[Jimbo]

Centralisation can and will make the traffic worse. Especially as it is right in the centre of town.

The centre of town is exactly the right place to have an office if you want to reduce the number of people driving to it.

What he said.

 

[henryscat]

I would go further and suggest a zero likelyhood of new public highway builds for at least a decade within the Borough

If not longer. More chance of a high speed railway.......

As for kitchen bins I predict a riot

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1426521_new-bin-collections-in-manchester-are-just-rubbish-say-angry-residents

 

[henryscat]

You could apply the same to housing and say right, we won't build any more houses and then people won't have any more kids...

You could question whether to keep building houses on green field land is a sensible policy when there are vast swathes of brown field land in the West Midlands conurbation that could be developed for housing - where good public transport exists and the roads are there.

 

[gilesjuk]

Centralisation can and will make the traffic worse. Especially as it is right in the centre of town.

The centre of town is exactly the right place to have an office if you want to reduce the number of people driving to it.

So I guess all those huge queues of cars I see going into the town centre aren't going to the town?

Surely by the train station is better?

 

[henryscat]

Centralisation can and will make the traffic worse. Especially as it is right in the centre of town.

The centre of town is exactly the right place to have an office if you want to reduce the number of people driving to it.

So I guess all those huge queues of cars I see going into the town centre aren't going to the town?

Surely by the train station is better?

There's only a finite number that can drive to town and only a finite amount of long stay car parking. Like I said, the town centre is the best place to have an office if you want to reduce the number of people driving to it - all bus routes come into the town centre and it is 15 mins cycle ride from the most part of Stafford. Being by the train station wouldn't offer any advantage really - its only 5 mins walk away on South Walls, so not a great hardship.

 

[gilesjuk]

There's only a finite number that can drive to town and only a finite amount of long stay car parking. Like I said, the town centre is the best place to have an office if you want to reduce the number of people driving to it - all bus routes come into the town centre and it is 15 mins cycle ride from the most part of Stafford. Being by the train station wouldn't offer any advantage really - its only 5 mins walk away on South Walls, so not a great hardship.

Trust me, I've worked with people who can barely waddle 10 or 20 meters due to excessive eating and lack of exercise.

 

[Glam]

There's only a finite number that can drive to town and only a finite amount of long stay car parking. Like I said, the town centre is the best place to have an office if you want to reduce the number of people driving to it - all bus routes come into the town centre and it is 15 mins cycle ride from the most part of Stafford. Being by the train station wouldn't offer any advantage really - its only 5 mins walk away on South Walls, so not a great hardship.

Trust me, I've worked with people who can barely waddle 10 or 20 meters due to excessive eating and lack of exercise.

I know a bloke who lives in North Castle street and he drives to Sainsburys.

 

[John Marwood]

There's only a finite number that can drive to town and only a finite amount of long stay car parking. Like I said, the town centre is the best place to have an office if you want to reduce the number of people driving to it - all bus routes come into the town centre and it is 15 mins cycle ride from the most part of Stafford. Being by the train station wouldn't offer any advantage really - its only 5 mins walk away on South Walls, so not a great hardship.

Trust me, I've worked with people who can barely waddle 10 or 20 meters due to excessive eating and lack of exercise.

I know a bloke who lives in North Castle street and he drives to Sainsburys.

Rowan Atkinson?

 

[gilesjuk]

I know a bloke who lives in North Castle street and he drives to Sainsburys.

More bags than arms I guess. Can't possibly transport shopping without a car

 

[Jimbo]

Trust me, I've worked with people who can barely waddle 10 or 20 meters due to excessive eating and lack of exercise.

Exactly the reason we should not be encouraging car use. The town centre is always going to be the easiest place to reach.

 

[Glam]

I know a bloke who lives in North Castle street and he drives to Sainsburys.

More bags than arms I guess. Can't possibly transport shopping without a car

No darling,he's just too lazy to walk half the time. Can't wait get his vodka home

 

[Glam]

I know a bloke who lives in North Castle street and he drives to Sainsburys.

More bags than arms I guess. Can't possibly transport shopping without a car

No darling,he's just too lazy to walk half the time. Can't wait get his vodka home

And I get me shopping from Sainsburys without a car.

 

[gilesjuk]

Trust me, I've worked with people who can barely waddle 10 or 20 meters due to excessive eating and lack of exercise.

Exactly the reason we should not be encouraging car use. The town centre is always going to be the easiest place to reach.

Well outside of London 71% of people drive to work. So where are all the people using the trains and buses?

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1101

You either cater for those people or you don't and create alternatives. But the discussions on here seem to suggest that people are addicted to the car.

 

[ddub1984]

I live on the Saxonfields estate and had a leaflet. I'm away next week so I can't go to the consultation but some neighbours are going and I've asked them to pass on my views: 'We don't want the houses, and we'll fight them. We don't want a road either, and we'll fight that in the unlikely event it ever happens'.

You didn't mind them building your house though of course...

Im a big fan of the Eastern Distributor Road personally, it will act as a ringroad, meaning people can travel from south Stafford to north Stafford without having to drive into the town, easing congestion in and around the town centre. It would preferably be a dual carriageway including the widening of Beaconside. Oh, & it should have roundabouts, not more traffic lights! Lol

I cant understand the argument against providing an alternative route around town rather than through town. I would say, show me a large town/city with a ringroad that would be better without the ringroad? It can only improve things. If the council doesnt have the budget surely it could be part-funded by developers as a condition of planning.

 

[John Marwood]

I live on the Saxonfields estate and had a leaflet. I'm away next week so I can't go to the consultation but some neighbours are going and I've asked them to pass on my views: 'We don't want the houses, and we'll fight them. We don't want a road either, and we'll fight that in the unlikely event it ever happens'.

You didn't mind them building your house though of course...

Im a big fan of the Eastern Distributor Road personally, it will act as a ringroad, meaning people can travel from south Stafford to north Stafford without having to drive into the town, easing congestion in and around the town centre. It would preferably be a dual carriageway including the widening of Beaconside. Oh, & it should have roundabouts, not more traffic lights! Lol

I cant understand the argument against providing an alternative route around town rather than through town. I would say, show me a large town/city with a ringroad that would be better without the ringroad? It can only improve things. If the council doesnt have the budget surely it could be part-funded by developers as a condition of planning.

Major Roads? Funded by 3 bed semi shack cowboys? Hmmm...


If the houses were Park Lane prices it may just about be cost effective.

Tis a very very expesive business building a new major highway from scratch to ribbon

 

[gilesjuk]

Im a big fan of the Eastern Distributor Road personally, it will act as a ringroad, meaning people can travel from south Stafford to north Stafford without having to drive into the town, easing congestion in and around the town centre.

There's plenty of capacity as it is. It's just that the roads are full of huge metal boxes on wheels with 1 person in them.

I don't see why so many people should have their view ruined and their quality of life degraded for another road that will just get choked up like all the rest.

 

[tek-monkey]

Should someones view be allowed to dictate the planning for a town? Were the locals asked permission before screwfix was built? You buy a plot, only rich people get to buy the surroundings too.