Proposed Change of Use - Stafford Court, Beaconside.

tek-monkey

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Someone very close to me trotted out the trope of the safety of kids, she said that there could be a child rapist in the number, I said there could be a child rapist in this street, then we got into a discussion and sadly she voiced the same points as @gilbert grape has mentioned in their post. Its alarming.
I got blocked on FB because someone said they could be a child rapist, and I pointed out he might be too. Apparently only brown asylum seekers can be child rapists, Ukranians are fine.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
I feel the need to add the person in question wasn't a Ukrainian! But had argued that they are fine to come over because they're having a real war, and wars in brown people countries are all apparently not real just disagreements
 

gilbert grape

Well-Known Forumite
After a tik-tok video I've seen today by the amazing actress/human being, Blake Lively, this whole 'pointing at immigrants' as the major danger is a big cover. If anything, their import is an asset to the really dark parts of our society!
Capitalising on desperate people and hoping the rest of us can;t see it is part of a very evil system.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
After a tik-tok video I've seen today by the amazing actress/human being, Blake Lively, this whole 'pointing at immigrants' as the major danger is a big cover. If anything, their import is an asset to the really dark parts of our society!
Capitalising on desperate people and hoping the rest of us can;t see it is part of a very evil system.
Look over there, not over here! Divide and conquer is one of the oldest control methods known, and still one of the easiest to implement. The idea that someone in a dinghy today is the reason your life has been shit for a decade is hysterical. As is the "why don't we look after our homeless veterans first" lot, OK dave you didn't give a feck about them til there were brown people incoming so maybe STFU.

It's not like it's binary, it's not we have the choice to do one or the other but never both, the fact we can't be bothered to look into the billions in dodgy covid loans proves money isn't really an issue. But stick an immigrant front and center, make sure they're seen (can't work, stuck in limbo for 18 months, placed somewhere very visible) then point and say see that guy there? He's why your life is crap!
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
Some of us may remember Tebbit's quote about poor people needing to make an effort to better themselves - "On yer bike".

Of course, you rarely hear the full quotation - "On yer bike and piss off somewhere that poor people should be".
 

tek-monkey

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Also everyone seems to gloss over the fact that once the paperwork is processed 3/4 of them are immediately told they can stay, thats at the very first stage. Which means they are no longer asylum seekers, they have a legitimate claim to be here and are now immigrants. Which begs the question why does it take the government 18 months to check if there are child rapists in amongst them? Shouldn't they do this sooner, like every other country in the world? Why can they not be bothered?

Could it, perhaps, be that they hope there are child rapists amongst them because that will fuel hatred and they can hold their hands up and say well we didn't know?
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
As with a lot of government (in)activities, (the right sort of) people can attain an increased income from delaying tactics.
 

Mudgie

Well-Known Forumite
I feel the need to add the person in question wasn't a Ukrainian! But had argued that they are fine to come over because they're having a real war, and wars in brown people countries are all apparently not real just disagreements
Well I understand there's "a real war" in Sudan that's seeing millions killed or displaced but, never mind skin colour, Sudan hasn't been supplying us with the vast quantities of food and fuel that Ukraine did to maintain our comfortable standard of living.
 

tek-monkey

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Well I understand there's "a real war" in Sudan that's seeing millions killed or displaced but, never mind skin colour, Sudan hasn't been supplying us with the vast quantities of food and fuel that Ukraine did to maintain our comfortable standard of living.
Yup, there are people we care if they die because we want their stuff, and there are people that have no stuff so we let them die. Yay for capitalism.

EDIT: Although I feel it's more that if Ukraine enters the realm of the new USSR then it's resources are removed from the Wests grasps. And of course Ukraine remembers what happened last time so obviously they'll fight to the death, and everyone else that was under their fist in living memory will help Ukraine and that includes EU/NATO members, and lets face it the war has been great for NATO membership as they now have pretty much the entire Russian Western border.

EDIT2: Can't wait for the rebuild contracts to appear, it'll be like Iraq/Kuwait all over again.
 
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tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Looking at the data, if we cut our processing time in half to 9 months (still 50% longer than most countries) we could do away with all of our contingency accommodation which is what Stafford is used for. So do the job properly and everyone is happy again, I wonder why the job isn't being done properly?
 

gilbert grape

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Cutting to the chase - If you look at who was behind many companies that have made weapons, and then look at companies that have won contracts to re-build nations that those weapons have destroyed, you can also do some more research and somewhere along the lines, you will find a link between Serco and Blackrock!
Look at 100 million being displaced by conflict, politics and environmental disasters and you'll look increasingly stupid to think "they're coming over here for the benefits!"
As a relative pacifist I have to ask the question "If people are so bloody clever, why aren't we ransacking their offices?"
 

gilbert grape

Well-Known Forumite
Number 1 seems to be a common thread, on so many matters in life!
"I don't care, I'll carry on cos I've always done it, I can't be bothered to change because I expect them to, first! "

Most of these sort of people are the ones not wanting people to survive after travelling 2k miles in search of safety!
 

PeterD

ST16 Represent.
Fantastic, so we now become a magnet for far right arseholes. Appalling, and I really hope they are happy, a charity through accident or design forever associated with the far right.
 

tek-monkey

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The banner says it all...
Says they need a slap to me, but it unfortunately is exactly what they mean. Heard it from several now, Ukrainians are alright but not the brown people basically. Funny really, cos they hated Europeans not that long ago and they were white, but we're back to basic skin colour again.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Fantastic, so we now become a magnet for far right arseholes. Appalling, and I really hope they are happy, a charity through accident or design forever associated with the far right.
No accident, they were very clear, and I shall never donate to them again. There's a place over cannock chase way that take donations specifically for the asylum seekers, I'm tempted to use them in future just to balance out the racists I accidentally supported.
 
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