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this has been mentioned before, so don't expect him to deny it - i think shoes will gladly wax lyrical about his support of such a programme!henryscat said:So you're basically advocating Nazi Germany eugenics?shoes said:The best thing to help this country out of the mess it's in is to impose a blanket ban on the poor from breeding
March OffGramaisc said:Telford match off..John Marwood said:I would keep out of Telford on Saturday if you know what I mean .. specifically Wellington
Where is heflossietoo said:Politicians doubtless assume that summer holidays only exist for them.Kingy said:Hazel Blears beat Michael Gove to the magic question "People need to ask, why were they not at school?" on Sky News today.
Talking of which, do we get points for spotting Jeremy Lefroy? If so, can we agree to accept pictures of him and third party sightings?
Having just watched this, i watched the 'next up' videoJohn Marwood said:
I presume you are talking about the bankers hereJimbo said:This all kicked off whilst I was in Cornwall, well out of the way of this lot. Friends of mine were Police on duty in Wolverhampton when it kicked off there. They've had days off cancelled, working 18 hour shifts for the past week.
Shoes has said alot that I agree with. There is a large element of our Country who have had years of life without consequence or responsiblity. Everything is someone elses problem to deal with or pay for, and any crime they have comitted results in little justice. I've read recent court cases from the riots where offenders with 20+ previous convictions are appearing yet they have never once served a day in prison. How can that be right? How can that be justice?
Society, and the Government have created an element in this country that expect everything to be provided but to do nothing for it. Families of three generations that have never been employed? That doesn't say to me that there are no jobs, it says to me that they simply don't want to work. It says it's easier for them to spend their life on the dole, having their children paid for by the state, having their rent and council tax written off. All of this because a Labour government spent 10 years paying these people off instead of getting tough and telling them it is unacceptable and will not be tollerated. Listening to the moaning, liberal left has led to this and I'm reassured to hear Cameron saying some of the right things about the future.
Cut their benefits, evict them and make these people wake up and realise that we don't owe them anything.
A not unreasonable presumption...John Marwood said:I presume you are talking about the bankers here
You could say that about a lot of other crimes.Jimbo said:any crime they have comitted results in little justice.
There are more people unemployed than there are job vacancies.That doesn't say to me that there are no jobs
There have been problems in the making since well before the last Labour government.All of this because a Labour government spent 10 years paying these people off instead of getting tough and telling them it is unacceptable and will not be tollerated.
I'm distinctly not reassured to hear anything Cameron spouts.I'm reassured to hear Cameron saying some of the right things about the future.
The lack of jobs is caused by our membership of the EU and our job market being flooded with workers from other European countries!henryscat said:You could say that about a lot of other crimes.Jimbo said:any crime they have comitted results in little justice.
There are more people unemployed than there are job vacancies.That doesn't say to me that there are no jobs
There have been problems in the making since well before the last Labour government.All of this because a Labour government spent 10 years paying these people off instead of getting tough and telling them it is unacceptable and will not be tollerated.
I'm distinctly not reassured to hear anything Cameron spouts.I'm reassured to hear Cameron saying some of the right things about the future.
How British are you?Hetairoi said:The lack of jobs is caused by our membership of the EU and our job market being flooded with workers from other European countries!henryscat said:You could say that about a lot of other crimes.Jimbo said:any crime they have comitted results in little justice.
There are more people unemployed than there are job vacancies.That doesn't say to me that there are no jobs
There have been problems in the making since well before the last Labour government.All of this because a Labour government spent 10 years paying these people off instead of getting tough and telling them it is unacceptable and will not be tollerated.
I'm distinctly not reassured to hear anything Cameron spouts.I'm reassured to hear Cameron saying some of the right things about the future.
Labour won't do anything about it because they rely on thier votes and the Conservatives won't do anything about it because their mates in industry want the cheap labour so the average British worker (or would be worker) is stuffed!
Its nothing to do with immigration. The chosen economic policy of recent governements (back to Thatcher at least) relies on there being a certain level of unemployment.Hetairoi said:The lack of jobs is caused by our membership of the EU and our job market being flooded with workers from other European countries!
Labour won't do anything about it because they rely on thier votes and the Conservatives won't do anything about it because their mates in industry want the cheap labour so the average British worker (or would be worker) is stuffed!
It is in the very nature of the capitalist mode of production to overwork some workers while keeping the rest as a reserve army of unemployed paupers.
I thought your mate Cameroon was into giving people a second chance?Jimbo said:This all kicked off whilst I was in Cornwall, well out of the way of this lot. Friends of mine were Police on duty in Wolverhampton when it kicked off there. They've had days off cancelled, working 18 hour shifts for the past week.
Shoes has said alot that I agree with. There is a large element of our Country who have had years of life without consequence or responsiblity. Everything is someone elses problem to deal with or pay for, and any crime they have comitted results in little justice. I've read recent court cases from the riots where offenders with 20+ previous convictions are appearing yet they have never once served a day in prison. How can that be right? How can that be justice?
Society, and the Government have created an element in this country that expect everything to be provided but to do nothing for it. Families of three generations that have never been employed? That doesn't say to me that there are no jobs, it says to me that they simply don't want to work. It says it's easier for them to spend their life on the dole, having their children paid for by the state, having their rent and council tax written off. All of this because a Labour government spent 10 years paying these people off instead of getting tough and telling them it is unacceptable and will not be tollerated. Listening to the moaning, liberal left has led to this and I'm reassured to hear Cameron saying some of the right things about the future.
Cut their benefits, evict them and make these people wake up and realise that we don't owe them anything.
Private Eye said:NUMBER CRUNCHING
21 PM David Cameron's age when he joined the Bullingdon Club, devoted to excessive drinking and violent disorder, of which he says "like many people, I did things when I was young that I should not have done, and that I regret."
19 London mayor Boris Johnson's age when he joined the Bullingdon Club and was arrested, which he has described as "deeply pathetic... a matter for shame."
16 Deputy prime minister Nick Clegg's age when he behaved "appalingly, irresponsibly, criminally" in drunken arson incident in Germany.