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The Big Benefits & Employment Thread
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Lunar Scorpion
Anarchy in the UK
Yes, almost like full time work - except with part time pay, a lot of this time is spent on a computer looking for job vacancies, or waiting for a computer because there aren't enough to go around. It is a complete waste of time.shoes said:Oh no... you mean almost like full time work?! You poor poor peopleLunar Scorpion said:
Why don't they just assess which people need this help and action that immediately?
I never was on DLA - this is a separate 'benefit' that even working people can get. If you get DLA and are not working, you will also get some other benefit as your main source of income.shoes said:
I'm not going to answer any more of your comments because it is obvious to me that you are so hate-filled, resentful and quick to judge that you will never understand what it is like... They may have done up the Jobcentre to make it seem all bright and cheerful, but the atmosphere in there is still awful and the staff who sign you on (the advisers are generally sound) pretty much all look down their nose at you, whether you deserve it or not (everyone I know who has signed on at some point or another will agree with me on this). They are not interested in helping you at all.
Lunar Scorpion
Anarchy in the UK
feck knows - they are probably dealing drugs because I don't have a TV, laptop (although I do have a PC from when I was a student), car (I don't even have a driving license), stereos (I only have one), holidays, track suits, trainers (and if I did they would be cheapo ones), bikes (although I will be getting one paid for by the Jobcentre from Back2Bikes soon), tattoos (yet), my piercings are minimal and I had them years ago, I don't smoke and I rarely buy my own alcohol, that's when I have a drink at all.djstaffs said:
I meant examples like mine, with work and benefits income for the same situation - not subjective comparisons. It is a well known fact that loads of people live on credit, so anyone who can afford that stuff must be either doing something illegal or in shitloads of debt. Most of my family work full time so I know it pays feck all, so why are you having a go at me just because I have no career? We're all skint, life sucks. What is the point in picking on a group of people that are probably worse off than you (whether you perceive it that way or not) when there are people out there who earn more in a week that most people do in a year just for kicking a piece of leather around (for example). Why aren't you having a go about the injustices of that?djstaffs said:
Lunar Scorpion
Anarchy in the UK
I know people who work on Highfields, fair enough it's right near Western Downs but that's not the point. I don't know how you can make assumptions like that, where is your evidence? It makes me sick every time I hear all the hateful generalised bullshit people come out with about people on benefits, because they have obviously been reading the Daily Mail too much.shoes said:
djstaffs
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Cant speak for shoes, but i dont read the dont read the daily mail. And i dont make assumptions. I have only commented on my daily encounters with people on benefits. Hateful? maybe a bit strong, resentful yes. Resentful because i look at my pay slip and see how much tax i pay to help fund it. Makes you sick? well let me pass you a bucket. Makes me mad when i see how hard i work and how much is taken off me.
At least those guys kicking a football about actually have some sort of talent. I wholly agree that they are paid far too much but their money doesnt come from sitting on their ass. Their money comes from all those fans who freely buy ticket and kits (and how many replica footy kits are bought with benefit cash??).
And your getting a bike paid for by the job centre? What the feck for? Who is gonna buy me a bike?? It gets worse....
At least those guys kicking a football about actually have some sort of talent. I wholly agree that they are paid far too much but their money doesnt come from sitting on their ass. Their money comes from all those fans who freely buy ticket and kits (and how many replica footy kits are bought with benefit cash??).
And your getting a bike paid for by the job centre? What the feck for? Who is gonna buy me a bike?? It gets worse....
Lunar Scorpion
Anarchy in the UK
I am getting a bike so that I don't have to spend so much on bus travel getting to the Jobcentre and the work which I do for free, that I choose to do, in case you had forgotten. I'm sure that being in employment you are perfectly capable of paying £50 odd quid for a bike, or at least saving up for it in a couple of months, whereas I generally have to spend what I get on essentials, or the occasional treat (e.g. a drink, singular) to keep me sane. I can spend up to £13 a week on bus travel, whereas if I had a bike then that would be cut down a lot, and I can use it to go to the charity shops to buy some more smart clothes so that I don't have to wear the same outfit every day I'm working and it would also mean that journey times are cut so that I wouldn't have to worry about being late because of buses so much.djstaffs said:
What makes you think that people on benefits don't have talent?! I actually find that offensive also on the part of many people I know. I can honestly say that I don't know of anyone on benefits who just sits on their arse all day, every single one has done something productive with their time! My friends and acquaintances must be very unrepresentative of people of benefits.
Have you ever thought that not ALL of your tax goes to the DWP for benefits payments? What about the other things that government pays for, MPs' expenses or bailing out the banks for example...
http://www.thetaxguide.co.uk/what-tax-spent-on.html said:
djstaffs
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Fair enough then, i am happy for that then, thats a good use of money.Lunar Scorpion said:
Didint say you or anyone on benefits dont have talent, just that footballers do have talent and whilst it is disgusting that they get paid so much for such uselessness they are not scronging off the workers of this country.
Mps pay etc?? still doesnt justify the scrongers.
You dont know anyone who sits on the ass all day? Are you sure? Let me introduce you to a few. I know far too many. In fact i dont any one on long term benefots who dont sit on their ass.
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
Really can't be arsed TBH, but this quote kinda stood out:
My initial post was an article showing that every penny we pay in income tax still doesn't cover the cost of benefits. Nobody here is disputing VAT or tax on fags/booze/petrol as they are universal, you pay them regardless of your working status. It is the taking from the workers, to give to those that don't, which we were talking about. Therefore your comment is completely wrong.Lunar Scorpion said:
I found the jobcentre staff very willing to help TBH, it was the housing benefit lot that really took the ****!shazbo said:
shoes
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Well frankly if the job centre is the only place you're looking for work then you're clearly not as intelligent or as keen to work as you make out.
Christ almighty! Argghhhh I'm going to come back and respond later - I'm off to do some work in half an hour so need to have a shower. Yes work. On a saturday. Not even my normal job, its some free lancing I managed to get because I'm proactive. And no, the job centre didn't help me find it!!
Christ almighty! Argghhhh I'm going to come back and respond later - I'm off to do some work in half an hour so need to have a shower. Yes work. On a saturday. Not even my normal job, its some free lancing I managed to get because I'm proactive. And no, the job centre didn't help me find it!!
MyCult
SEO to the FACE
I've been having some trouble from 'the Evil Knight'. Would you be able to have a word...
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
At least the thread is more pleasant now 
