New Birmingham to Manchester rail route

henryscat

Well-Known Forumite
Those who are anti HS2 are modern day Luddites. Thank god your not in charge of developing anything for the future.
The economic case put forward for HS2 is completely crackers, nothing to do with being a luddite. The money would be better invested in other public transport, including the existing rail network. I'm surprised that you are pro HS2 given your views on local transport elsewhere!
 

Maryland

Well-Known Forumite
You are missing very little.

Some people in Crewe will be offended that you think it's on the way to Cheshire...

Crewe is not undiscovered, or a delight.
Thanks for this. Going to have to go there now. Am assuming now that it is actually Cheshire, which would explain a lot.
If expedition to Crewe successful, might be able to try other exotic places in the northwest. Rhyl, maybe, or Bootle. Quite excited. Possibly wait until a sunny day though.
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Thanks for this. Going to have to go there now. Am assuming now that it is actually Cheshire, which would explain a lot.
If expedition to Crewe successful, might be able to try other exotic places in the northwest. Rhyl, maybe, or Bootle. Quite excited. Possibly wait until a sunny day though.


Good luck with that

Maybe not take any valuables with you for the second and third trips
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
HS3 will link the cake shop in Hebden Bridge with Gideon Osborne's nannie Pennie at a cost of twenty pence

HS4 will link Felixstowe with Leicester and Shrewsbury through to Holyhead and be made from water

HS5 will link Watergate Bay with Doxey sidings and be a free service with on board bakery and brewery
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Thanks for this. Going to have to go there now. Am assuming now that it is actually Cheshire, which would explain a lot.
If expedition to Crewe successful, might be able to try other exotic places in the northwest. Rhyl, maybe, or Bootle. Quite excited. Possibly wait until a sunny day though.
Crewe is OK, in a less classy than Walsall kind of way. You'll catch the clap in Rhyl and get mugged and beaten in Bootle.

Some people might call that a great way to spend a weekend...
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
HS3 will link the cake shop in Hebden Bridge with Gideon Osborne's nannie Pennie at a cost of twenty pence

HS4 will link Felixstowe with Leicester and Shrewsbury through to Holyhead and be made from water

HS5 will link Watergate Bay with Doxey sidings and be a free service with on board bakery and brewery
"HS3" should really be called MS3 - 125mph isn't really high-speed in modern railway terms anymore... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29779134

Building H2SO4 will be the real acid test.
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Norton Bridge is beginning to take shape

And that shape is scooped red clay

I wonder where all that earth is being taken...it would make a good golf course ,I shit you not
 

Laurie61

Well-Known Forumite
Norton Bridge is beginning to take shape

And that shape is scooped red clay

I wonder where all that earth is being taken...it would make a good golf course ,I shit you not

I'm loving the retro look -

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John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords


You miss the point

Stoke miss the point

The point is not an efficient and cost effective transportation system

The point is that the politicians want a shiny new fast train, because other countries have one - end of

But really truly they want one because they have 'interests' in it.

It will be their pension pot

If the Conservative Party are so keen on this why can't they have it built with private money?
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Why would they build it with private money? Much better to rape the public purse then privitise it to 'save' the public the cost of upkeep, that way they get to sell it to the great unwashed as a saving not a massive cost.
 

henryscat

Well-Known Forumite
The point is not an efficient and cost effective transportation system

The point is that the politicians want a shiny new fast train, because other countries have one - end of

Politicians (and others) are very fond of deciding on the solution without actually having defined the problem.
 

Laurie61

Well-Known Forumite
I think the new railways are fine in principal, the spin put on this when first proposed was wrong and should have just emphasised the extra capacity being created rather than speed. Any brand new system using new roiling stock would have been faster than what went before anyhow. Unfortunately speed was used to sell it to the public and it has come back to bite them when it became obvious that time savings on some journeys is not huge.
What worries me is where is the power going to come from as our spare generating capacity vanishes.

http://www.kidderminstershuttle.co....51.Blaze_fuels__energy_crunch__fears/?ref=rss
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Paving slabs,ctheres going to be a walkway and cycle path run along side it

There is now qnyway

Im brilliant at ideas me
 
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