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New Birmingham to Manchester rail route

Discussion in 'Stafford Chat' started by John Marwood, Jan 26, 2013.

  1. henryscat

    henryscat Well-Known Forumite

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    The economic case put forward for HS2 is completely crackers, nothing to do with being a luddite. The money would be better invested in other public transport, including the existing rail network. I'm surprised that you are pro HS2 given your views on local transport elsewhere!
     
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  2. Maryland

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    Thanks for this. Going to have to go there now. Am assuming now that it is actually Cheshire, which would explain a lot.
    If expedition to Crewe successful, might be able to try other exotic places in the northwest. Rhyl, maybe, or Bootle. Quite excited. Possibly wait until a sunny day though.
     
  3. John Marwood

    John Marwood I ♥ cryptic crosswords

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    Good luck with that

    Maybe not take any valuables with you for the second and third trips
     
  4. John Marwood

    John Marwood I ♥ cryptic crosswords

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    HS3 will link the cake shop in Hebden Bridge with Gideon Osborne's nannie Pennie at a cost of twenty pence

    HS4 will link Felixstowe with Leicester and Shrewsbury through to Holyhead and be made from water

    HS5 will link Watergate Bay with Doxey sidings and be a free service with on board bakery and brewery
     
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    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    Crewe is OK, in a less classy than Walsall kind of way. You'll catch the clap in Rhyl and get mugged and beaten in Bootle.

    Some people might call that a great way to spend a weekend...
     
  6. Gramaisc

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    "HS3" should really be called MS3 - 125mph isn't really high-speed in modern railway terms anymore... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29779134

    Building H2SO4 will be the real acid test.
     
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  7. John Marwood

    John Marwood I ♥ cryptic crosswords

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    Norton Bridge is beginning to take shape

    And that shape is scooped red clay

    I wonder where all that earth is being taken...it would make a good golf course ,I shit you not
     
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    I'm loving the retro look -

    22803-0.jpg
     
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    The case for a route via Stoke....

     
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  12. John Marwood

    John Marwood I ♥ cryptic crosswords

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    You miss the point

    Stoke miss the point

    The point is not an efficient and cost effective transportation system

    The point is that the politicians want a shiny new fast train, because other countries have one - end of

    But really truly they want one because they have 'interests' in it.

    It will be their pension pot

    If the Conservative Party are so keen on this why can't they have it built with private money?
     
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  13. tek-monkey

    tek-monkey wanna see my snake?

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    Why would they build it with private money? Much better to rape the public purse then privitise it to 'save' the public the cost of upkeep, that way they get to sell it to the great unwashed as a saving not a massive cost.
     
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  14. Gramaisc

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    It's a wonder nobody's thought of that before.
     
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    Politicians (and others) are very fond of deciding on the solution without actually having defined the problem.
     
  16. Gramaisc

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    Looking this the other day - http://planefinder.net/ - just to see what was going over, I discovered that there are many regular, scheduled flights from Manchester to Heathrow. Seems a bit odd to me.
     
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    I think the new railways are fine in principal, the spin put on this when first proposed was wrong and should have just emphasised the extra capacity being created rather than speed. Any brand new system using new roiling stock would have been faster than what went before anyhow. Unfortunately speed was used to sell it to the public and it has come back to bite them when it became obvious that time savings on some journeys is not huge.
    What worries me is where is the power going to come from as our spare generating capacity vanishes.

    http://www.kidderminstershuttle.co....51.Blaze_fuels__energy_crunch__fears/?ref=rss
     
  18. John Marwood

    John Marwood I ♥ cryptic crosswords

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  20. John Marwood

    John Marwood I ♥ cryptic crosswords

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    Paving slabs,ctheres going to be a walkway and cycle path run along side it

    There is now qnyway

    Im brilliant at ideas me
     

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