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Bring Burger King to Stafford
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Wolfenrook
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Ner, just fed up of the people who seem to think they have the right to dictate what others should eat. That, and I don't like Stafford. I used to like Stafford, then I lived there and discovered what a hole it is.
Oh and I am just naturally grumpy. I usually filter the things I say to spare people's feelings, but to be quite honest I'm getting fed up of having to do so when so few others bother.
Ade
Oh and I am just naturally grumpy. I usually filter the things I say to spare people's feelings, but to be quite honest I'm getting fed up of having to do so when so few others bother.
Ade
Hothouse Flower
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I wouldn't dream of dictating what people eat or don't eat although when I see hugely obese people chomping in the street on junk food I do secretly think " oh love you really really shouldn't".
That's another pet hate of mine too....it really is common to eat while walking along. Perhaps I am one of those people who think they are posh but aren't really. Actually I deplore the declining standards of decency that seems to pass for normal these days.
Yes we have too many phone shops, chain coffee shops but not enough of the independent shops that make a town unique.
I would like to see more cafes like the one up the back of boots whose name escapes me and perhaps more independent boutiques but it's hard for people to pay the exorbitant rates.
Back to Burger King.....you say it's what the people want. Who are these people? Certainly no one I know. However I will grant you that they are better than MacDonalds.
That's another pet hate of mine too....it really is common to eat while walking along. Perhaps I am one of those people who think they are posh but aren't really. Actually I deplore the declining standards of decency that seems to pass for normal these days.
Yes we have too many phone shops, chain coffee shops but not enough of the independent shops that make a town unique.
I would like to see more cafes like the one up the back of boots whose name escapes me and perhaps more independent boutiques but it's hard for people to pay the exorbitant rates.
Back to Burger King.....you say it's what the people want. Who are these people? Certainly no one I know. However I will grant you that they are better than MacDonalds.
Wolfenrook
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I didn't say it's what the poeple want. lol I said it's what I want, what the people want is their business. To be 100% honest though it doesn't really matter to me any more whether there is one in Stafford or not, as we moved to Wolverhampton. I do however wish they'd put one back in Wolverhampton and shut the McDonalds. I really really don't like McDonalds, the food really is garbage.
Sometimes it's necessary to eat whilst walking, I've been there myself when I don't have time to actually sit down and eat. That said, I agree completely that it's far better to sit down and eat properly. Heck I would rather KFC provided knives and forks. lol That's not the "thinking they're posh" I am talking about, surely though you have noticed how some folks seem to think that Stafford is posher than it is? It's snobbery I am talking about, not having standards. Heck I'm not even keen on eating a bar of chocolate whilst out and about, unless I can sit down.
I think the cafe you are probably thinking of is the Soup Kitchen? If so, sorry but it's far too blue rinse for me. We quite liked Breaks though.
I think we all know how to save Stafford though, reduce the stupid business rates and rents. Then the smaller independants could perhaps afford to set up there, rather than been replaced by mediocre bland chains.
Ade
PS. Sorry if my dislike of Stafford upsets anybody. Do keep in mind that I've spent the last 3 years living in Silkmore....
To be 100% honest though it doesn't really matter to me any more whether there is one in Stafford or not, as we moved to Wolverhampton. I do however wish they'd put one back in Wolverhampton and shut the McDonalds. I really really don't like McDonalds, the food really is garbage.Sometimes it's necessary to eat whilst walking, I've been there myself when I don't have time to actually sit down and eat. That said, I agree completely that it's far better to sit down and eat properly. Heck I would rather KFC provided knives and forks. lol That's not the "thinking they're posh" I am talking about, surely though you have noticed how some folks seem to think that Stafford is posher than it is? It's snobbery I am talking about, not having standards. Heck I'm not even keen on eating a bar of chocolate whilst out and about, unless I can sit down.
I think the cafe you are probably thinking of is the Soup Kitchen? If so, sorry but it's far too blue rinse for me. We quite liked Breaks though.
I think we all know how to save Stafford though, reduce the stupid business rates and rents. Then the smaller independants could perhaps afford to set up there, rather than been replaced by mediocre bland chains.
Ade
PS. Sorry if my dislike of Stafford upsets anybody. Do keep in mind that I've spent the last 3 years living in Silkmore....
henryscat
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Please don't imply that Burger King is somehow superior or more healthy to any other fast food joint of similar ilk - it isn't. They flog nasty junk and whichever way you look at it, none of it is healthy eating.
I was just looking at the nutritional information for Burger King. Double Whopper with cheese: 976 calories, 61 (!!!) g of fat, of which 20g is saturated. Why not wash it down with a super large Coke? 378 calories and 95g of sugar. Book that bed in the cardiac ward....
On McDonalds nutritional info the worst beef burger I could find was the Arizona Nacho Grande (sounds vile) - which was 730 calories, 43g of fat, of which 17g is saturated. Still stupidly unhealthy but doesn't come close to the double whopper with cheese.
So, think Stafford would be better off without a BK. It would be even better off with out McDonalds.
Glam
Mad Cat Woman
I wouldn't mind a Burger King in Stafford. I possibly go Mcd's once a year,if that. I'm not a fan of the place. In fact i'd rather go to the Mr Sizzle van on market square. And yes,i'm one of them overweight fat birds who will quite happily walk along the high street eating food cos she's hungry.
The cafe you're on about is The Grove,nice enough. Personally i'd rather go to Sainsburys n buy a pot of tea for 85p,I go to where my purse dictates,nowt else. And before anyone starts thinking i'm some Waynetta Slob,walking round town in me velour tracksuit,chip pan hair - i'm not.
The cafe you're on about is The Grove,nice enough. Personally i'd rather go to Sainsburys n buy a pot of tea for 85p,I go to where my purse dictates,nowt else. And before anyone starts thinking i'm some Waynetta Slob,walking round town in me velour tracksuit,chip pan hair - i'm not.
Wolfenrook
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Wolfenrook
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Even if you were, it would be nobodies business but your own Glam. Disliking something is one thing, having a go at people who do that something, well they had better have a good reason to do so. I PERSONALLY dislike walking along eating, but have had to do so before now, but that doesn't give me the right to stop somebody else from doing so. So long as they put their litter in a bin once finished.
As to the Grove, looked a bit naff to me. Breaks do a nice pot of tea though to be sure. I'm not the sort of person who sits with my little finger sticking out though.
Oh sod it, I will give a short answer in reply to MrKnowItAll up there. Just to point out just looked up that Nacho Grande, the burger on it is the size of a SINGLE wopper, so you are comparing a single burger with a double burger, well done there... Not that you'd know, been a celery muncher. Oh and good luck buying a Super sized coke in a UK Burger King, given as you CAN'T thanks to the "blame the sellers for their customers getting fat" brigade.
Ade
henryscat
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I never said it was the same size - I went through all the beef burgers on the menu of each and they were the highest fat in a single serving. A McDonalds double cheese burger has less fat for info.
A super coke is on the UK menu according to BK: http://www.burgerking.co.uk/menu/super-coca-cola
You can do your own nutritional comparisons if you like:
http://www.burgerking.co.uk/files/documents/NutritionalInformation_26092011.pdf
http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/content/ukhome/meal_builder.html
At the end of the day there's no getting away from the fact that they both peddle junk.
Most of the nutritionists in "Super Size Me" reckoned once a month was the most often you should visit a McDonalds and quite a few said "never".
Wolfenrook
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Did I say they don't pedal junk? No.
Did I say Burger King was healthy? No.
What I said was that the cooking method BK use is BETTER as it allows the fat to drip away. FACT.
As to super size cokes, not in any BK I have eaten in, and I have eaten in ones in London, Birmingham and a couple of the ones on motorway services. I don't give a hoot if the site says they still do them. The fact is though, it doesn't you muppet! You really do need to READ things, not just rant about them. I quote:-
"You could go small, medium or large."
Which is what you can get in a BK, small, medium and large. You CAN'T get super size in the UK, and haven't been able to for a long time now. I don't give a hoot that the website says regular, medium and super, I have not seen those sizes on sale in a UK BK in quite some time.
All of which is besides the point, nobody is FORCING anybody to eat any of the foods they offer. If you don't want to eat it, you don't have to eat it. I don't give a hoot if they offer a burger with more calories etc than their competitors, they DON'T force anybody to order them.
I don't expect you to like what BK etc offer, you're a vegan. You shouldn't expect to find anything YOU like in a BK, go find a rabbit food shop somewhere. The same applies to anybody who doesn't want to eat junk food, nobody is making you, there are other places you can eat, so off and eat in them.
Ade
Did I say Burger King was healthy? No.
What I said was that the cooking method BK use is BETTER as it allows the fat to drip away. FACT.
As to super size cokes, not in any BK I have eaten in, and I have eaten in ones in London, Birmingham and a couple of the ones on motorway services. I don't give a hoot if the site says they still do them. The fact is though, it doesn't you muppet! You really do need to READ things, not just rant about them. I quote:-
"You could go small, medium or large."
Which is what you can get in a BK, small, medium and large. You CAN'T get super size in the UK, and haven't been able to for a long time now. I don't give a hoot that the website says regular, medium and super, I have not seen those sizes on sale in a UK BK in quite some time.
All of which is besides the point, nobody is FORCING anybody to eat any of the foods they offer. If you don't want to eat it, you don't have to eat it. I don't give a hoot if they offer a burger with more calories etc than their competitors, they DON'T force anybody to order them.
I don't expect you to like what BK etc offer, you're a vegan. You shouldn't expect to find anything YOU like in a BK, go find a rabbit food shop somewhere. The same applies to anybody who doesn't want to eat junk food, nobody is making you, there are other places you can eat, so off and eat in them.
Ade
henryscat
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Putting things in capital letters doesn't change the amount of fat that remains, as listed in Burger King's own info.
It's listed on their UK website which you appear not to disagree with. As far as Coke goes the content of it is proportional to the amount that you drink. Point is that it forms part of the junk meal and is something that is generally consumed in far too greater quantities.
Cigarette manufacturers don't directly "force" people to smoke, but the fact remains that their products do immense damage to health which is now widely recognised and is increasingly being legislated against. There are some instances where individual decision making does not produce a beneficial outcome and nor can large corporations be trusted to be responsible when their first priority is profit and not your health. Fast food chains may not directly ram burgers down people's throats but they do employ marketing strategies to influence people's decisions. Sponsorship of the Olympics is a good example - Coca Cola and McDonalds are associating themselves with something that represents healthy exercise etc..... when their products are anything but. Whilst individuals have some responsibility the notion that the companies selling this stuff don't bear any responsibility is laughable.
Hothouse Flower
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Nobody HAS to walk along eating. It's a choice. If you are in a rush then you make a choice. I was brought up not to eat on the street so I dont. I would rather have the self discipline and be a bit hungry and wait a few hours. Or at least sit down at a bench for 2 mins to eat a sandwich.
Like I said, standards are declining.
Wolfenrook
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I was brought up that it was rude and common to wolf your food down... It takes me considerably longer than 2 minutes to eat a sandwich.
I take it back, you are a snob. That or you have never been in the position where you can eat whilst walking, or go for 12 hours without food. Seriously, what harm does it do to you? None, so frankly it's none of your business whether other people do it or not. Heck it could even be both.
As to you scat, more of the usual garbage you like to post. Here's a tip, just because something enters legislation, doesn't make it right that it is legislated against. You are also once again really confused in your standards comparing something that only harms the person chosing to partake with a product that harms everybody around them. You're an idiot though, and a fascist who would prefer to live in a dictatorship, so it doesn't surprise me.
Ade
I take it back, you are a snob. That or you have never been in the position where you can eat whilst walking, or go for 12 hours without food. Seriously, what harm does it do to you? None, so frankly it's none of your business whether other people do it or not. Heck it could even be both.
As to you scat, more of the usual garbage you like to post. Here's a tip, just because something enters legislation, doesn't make it right that it is legislated against. You are also once again really confused in your standards comparing something that only harms the person chosing to partake with a product that harms everybody around them. You're an idiot though, and a fascist who would prefer to live in a dictatorship, so it doesn't surprise me.
Ade
Gadget
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I'm curious, why were you bought up not to eat on the street? Why is it common to eat on the street? People have been doing so for centuries. Hot chestnut men, hot potato men etc. You know officially it is uncouth to eat fruit without a knife and fork and eating oranges on trains is a huge no! I avoid eating on the street because i just don't feel comfortable doing it, like wise i dislike eating outdoors in any capacity, you can tell i'm a joy on picnics lol.
All of this is off topic though, the op just wants a bk in stafford. Either you want one or not, this wasn't a thread on the morals, ethics and health ramifications of eating fast food.
G
All of this is off topic though, the op just wants a bk in stafford. Either you want one or not, this wasn't a thread on the morals, ethics and health ramifications of eating fast food.
G
Hothouse Flower
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Wolf, it may take more than 2 mins to wolf down a sandwich but what size the sandwich? I only have lady sized sandwiches, with the crust cut off, but then as I like to preserve my size 10 figure I am never going to pig out on a massive subway type edifice.
But you know what, this has all got a bit silly.
There are many people on here who are all of the same ilk.
Someone comes along from a different mould and you don't like it and try to bully them off. You are right, it's nothing to me how common you are and what muck you eat but I thought the idea of a forum was to exchange opinions however diverse they may be.
Not this forum obviously...the only opinions welcome are those that conform.
But you know what, this has all got a bit silly.
There are many people on here who are all of the same ilk.
Someone comes along from a different mould and you don't like it and try to bully them off. You are right, it's nothing to me how common you are and what muck you eat but I thought the idea of a forum was to exchange opinions however diverse they may be.
Not this forum obviously...the only opinions welcome are those that conform.
Hothouse Flower
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Ok, everybody is right and I am wrong.
Perhaps I should teleport back to the fifties when gentlemen still tipped their hat to a lady.
And anyway, I don't even live in Stafford itself although I do live in Staffordshire so perhaps I have no right to post on this forum with my obviously outdated opinions.
Perhaps I should teleport back to the fifties when gentlemen still tipped their hat to a lady.
And anyway, I don't even live in Stafford itself although I do live in Staffordshire so perhaps I have no right to post on this forum with my obviously outdated opinions.
db
#chaplife
er, you defo can.. well, the one in the bull ring in brum, anyway.. me & the missus go a couple of times a year (birthday & christmas shopping) and we always comment on how we struggle to finish our "large" meals, so we're amazed that anyone should choose the clearly advertised "super" size..
mcdonald's did away with "supersize" many years ago, thanks to the aforementioned brigade, but BK are defo still embracing it with tumescent pride
sounds fair enough...
...i take it back, you are a hypocrite.
says (shouts) the man who is dictating to everyone lol..
well, exactly.. god knows why Mr. Angry McShoutenstein has chosen to have a massive cob-on in this thread.. my favourite part was how he accuses staffordians of being miserable, yet he's the only one in the whole thread whose shouting and raving and bringing the tone down lol..
anyway, let's get this back on track, like you say
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tek-monkey
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So, out of interest, do you believe that more people will eat junk food if we have more junk food outlets? If so you must place marketing power above peoples own intelligence, but I'm willing to bet all the people who think this somehow feel themselves too intelligent to fall for it?
Having a BK won't make me eat more junk food, it just means a higher proportion of my junk food intake would be BK than previously. I'm sure not many people walk down the street and think 'Well bugger me, I am passing a burger outlet so I really should buy one'. Or do they? I suppose when I see a nice looking pub I usually want to pop in for a pint!
Having a BK won't make me eat more junk food, it just means a higher proportion of my junk food intake would be BK than previously. I'm sure not many people walk down the street and think 'Well bugger me, I am passing a burger outlet so I really should buy one'. Or do they? I suppose when I see a nice looking pub I usually want to pop in for a pint!