Coronavirus.

Glam

Mad Cat Woman
I won't be having my Christmas dinner till the 27th, owing to the time it will take to prepare and cook it.
I'm doing 12.30-20.30 Christmas Eve, 7am -3pm Christmas Day and Boxing Day. Not my choice, I have to go along with the rota at work.

So we decided have it the 27th, luckily i'm off for a week from then.

The 27th was when I was going to spend time with the eldest and his gf and my sister.
Outside of work, I only really see the youngest, and I can't count him cos he lives here!
So as you can all imagine, I am 1 really pissed off old Glam bird, Boring Boris could've let us have a few days either side.

Oh yeah, he can drag his arse out of No10 and clap for the NHS, or even ring his bells on Christmas Eve. I know exactly where I'd like shove them ruddy bells!
 

MilleD

Well-Known Forumite
Can we just fast-foward to next year??

Never been so depressed at christmas/nye time!

want it all gone, this year gone, coronavirus gone ALL GOne gone gone

We'll get there. Once they get a good process for the vaccines it will all be good.

We'll look back at this time and wonder if it was real I'm sure.
 

Mudgie

Well-Known Forumite
I'm not sure celebrating Christmas is more important than education.
I've neither thought nor suggested that celebrating Christmas is more important than education.
Schools shouldn't have reopened in September and celebrating Christmas need be no more than quiet contemplation in the privacy of ones own home, although I might open one of my bottles of Westvleteren 12 twelve days from now.
 

MilleD

Well-Known Forumite
I disagree. Schools are more important than just places to learn. They are places of safety for loads of kids. To shut them down isn't right. Especially when people can't be arsed to wear masks or social distance which is the very easiest thing to do. If people can't do that, restricting access to schools is utterly pointless and harmful for many children.
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
I disagree. Schools are more important than just places to learn. They are places of safety for loads of kids. To shut them down isn't right. Especially when people can't be arsed to wear masks or social distance which is the very easiest thing to do. If people can't do that, restricting access to schools is utterly pointless and harmful for many children.
Hence why I put the usual exemptions.

Restricting access to schools will help bring down the spread of infection.
 

MilleD

Well-Known Forumite
Hence why I put the usual exemptions.

Restricting access to schools will help bring down the spread of infection.

If you think the "usual exemptions" catch all the kids for whom school is a sanctuary, you have no idea.

Edit. Apologies it that was rude, it wasn't intended.
 
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Mudgie

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I disagree. Schools are more important than just places to learn. They are places of safety for loads of kids. To shut them down isn't right. Especially when people can't be arsed to wear masks or social distance which is the very easiest thing to do. If people can't do that, restricting access to schools is utterly pointless and harmful for many children.
"Schools ..... are places of safety for loads of kids" means that children aren't safe at home.
Is that because their parents are the type of people who "can't be arsed to wear masks or social distance which is the very easiest thing to do"?
It's no coincidence that deaths were ten a day during the summer and 500 a day since schools opened in September and that's why "restricting access to schools" is necessary NOT "utterly pointless"
 

MilleD

Well-Known Forumite
"Schools ..... are places of safety for loads of kids" means that children aren't safe at home.
Is that because their parents are the type of people who "can't be arsed to wear masks or social distance which is the very easiest thing to do"?
It's no coincidence that deaths were ten a day during the summer and 500 a day since schools opened in September and that's why "restricting access to schools" is necessary NOT "utterly pointless"

What the hell are you on about?

It's nice if you have no knowledge of children using schools as safe places. Lucky you.

Your case stats are utter bull. Try and look at other pieces of the jigsaw.
 

littleme

250,000th poster!
"Schools ..... are places of safety for loads of kids" means that children aren't safe at home.
Is that because their parents are the type of people who "can't be arsed to wear masks or social distance which is the very easiest thing to do"?
It's no coincidence that deaths were ten a day during the summer and 500 a day since schools opened in September and that's why "restricting access to schools" is necessary NOT "utterly pointless"
Schools closed in April, not just for the summer holidays.
 

MilleD

Well-Known Forumite
"Schools ..... are places of safety for loads of kids" means that children aren't safe at home.
Is that because their parents are the type of people who "can't be arsed to wear masks or social distance which is the very easiest thing to do"?
It's no coincidence that deaths were ten a day during the summer and 500 a day since schools opened in September and that's why "restricting access to schools" is necessary NOT "utterly pointless"

The death rate was the highest in the summer when no kids were in school!

Where do people get this shit?
 

littleme

250,000th poster!
What the hell are you on about?

It's nice if you have no knowledge of children using schools as safe places. Lucky you.

Your case stats are utter bull. Try and look at other pieces of the jigsaw.
My (15yr old) daughter is desperate to stay at school, and keep her normality. It must be so hard for kids at the moment.

I never thought I would hear myself telling her 'it's ok if you don't want to go to school, you don't have to' - however, she does want to... Her other option is staying at home alone in her final year before 6th form.
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
The death rate was the highest in the summer when no kids were in school!

Where do people get this shit?
Not according to this, just for the sake of accuracy.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

Obviously closing schools is not ideal but I can't see any other way of making a significant difference to infection rates and therefore, hospital admissions and deaths rates.

I'm all ears for alternatives, however.
 

MilleD

Well-Known Forumite
Not according to this, just for the sake of accuracy.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

Obviously closing schools is not ideal but I can't see any other way of making a significant difference to infection rates and therefore, hospital admissions and deaths rates.

I'm all ears for alternatives, however.

Fine. Shut everything down. Create chaos in education, ruin the economy. All the money poured into shutting things down needed to be put into healthcare. But god forbid that would happen.

Stopping people being idiots in shops. That's what's needed. I've been nowhere since march. People just don't give a shit.

Look at those disgusting selfish t**ts in London. Thinking it's a good idea to move to a different area. Absolute bloody genius.
 
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