General Election 2010 - Stafford results

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MarkHeenan

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John Marwood said:
64 per cent of statistic are wrong

including that one......
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How exactly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_UK_general_election
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2005
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2010
 
tek-monkey

tek-monkey

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MarkHeenan said:
tek-monkey said:
Considering Browns popularity they still got a shed load of seats really, he is one of the most despised politicians ever (not counting the unelected sith lord obviously) and yet the Conservatives still couldn't get a majority over him. Given that track record I suspect they could shave a drunken bear* and put it up for Pm and it'd still do well. Its quite depressing really.
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Yeah - it's worth noting that the Conservatives got more votes in 2010 (10.71 million, 305 seats) than Labour did in 2005 (9.55 million, 356 seats) and that Labour got less votes in 2010 (8.60 million, 258 seats) than the Conservatives did in 1997 (9.60 million, 165 seats). It's all a bit screwy really.
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The votes are irrelevant under FPTP, only the seats. I'd say you need some sort of PR to sort that out ;)
 
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MarkHeenan

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tek-monkey said:
The votes are irrelevant under FPTP, only the seats. I'd say you need some sort of PR to sort that out ;)
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It would seem so, and if there was a form of PR that:
a) kept the direct link between representative and constituency, and
b) produced, or tended to produce, strong governments,
then I'd be all in favour of it.
 
Gramaisc

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
The size of the electorate and turnout variations also make individual comparisons difficult across time. Percentage of the vote may be more relevant...

As my colleague has intimated above, you have to put up with the seats you win under the current FPTP system and misreresenttation is almost obligatory as a result - in one directio or the other.
 
Gramaisc

Gramaisc

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The maintaining of the constituency link is no problem whatsoever. All five TDs for Laois/Offaly are born, bred and still live there, for example. A lot more of a link than Hugh Fraser ever had here, I feel, or Malcolm Rifkind in Kensington, or Peter Mandelson in Hartlepool, ...

An effective and professional administration may be to more peoples' liking than a strong government.
 
tek-monkey

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
MarkHeenan said:
tek-monkey said:
The votes are irrelevant under FPTP, only the seats. I'd say you need some sort of PR to sort that out ;)
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It would seem so, and if there was a form of PR that:
a) kept the direct link between representative and constituency, and
b) produced, or tended to produce, strong governments,
then I'd be all in favour of it.
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a: OK, there are options for this. Not sure which would be best at present admittedly, but even AV is a tentative start in my eyes? Not enough, but a start.
b: We won't know for a few elections, this is a new fangled concept for UK politicions regardless of what everyone else is doing.
 
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MarkHeenan

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Gramaisc said:
MarkHeenan said:
Gramaisc said:
The last time that one party got more than 50% of the vote was 1900...
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1931 actually
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Indeed, it was the National Government of 1935, missed that one. Fancy a National Government today?..
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We seem to be getting one...
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tek-monkey

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Lets try again.....

Osbourne still secretary, bah! Other than that its still waiting on the yells fellas to agree on the coalition, although apparently now the Cons don't want the tax threshold raised to 10k. Bah!
 
John Marwood

John Marwood

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MarkHeenan said:
John Marwood said:
64 per cent of statistic are wrong

including that one......
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How exactly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_UK_general_election
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2005
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2010
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lol

erm..

'that one' was referring to mine ..the 64 percent
 
John Marwood

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
tek-monkey said:
I always thought 78.9% of statistics were made up on the spot.
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Superstitious nonsense...


Whereas...

Beware the feller of trees, the destroyer,he with a sign

on the end of his nose...
 
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MarkHeenan

Well-Known Forumite
John Marwood said:
MarkHeenan said:
John Marwood said:
64 per cent of statistic are wrong

including that one......
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How exactly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_UK_general_election
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2005
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2010
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lol

erm..

'that one' was referring to mine ..the 64 percent
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Ah, get it now *facepalm
 
John Marwood

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Clegg bought off with the do nothing role that Prescott and Harman managed so well

ie the title but no authority..

My money is on three elections in 12 months

Alan Sugar to decide the results..
 
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