Will UKIP Do Well in the General Election?

andy w

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You can measure what you like - Ireland was the fastest growing in the EU last year .. 7.7%.
And good luck to them but I imagine most of the growth in Ireland, and in the UK for that matter, has been rebound growth and projects that were mothballed during the crash. The Riverside development is a good example of that.
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
My man at Harvard said ..

If you include the hundreds of thousands who have gone self employed ( av salary £12,000 ) and add in those on ZHC zero hours contracts, you have France/Italy/Portugal/Spain but without the sunshine and olive oil diet

I say Lard

Come by Ah me Lard

Pork Pies
 

Noah

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My man at Harvard said ..

If you include the hundreds of thousands who have gone self employed ( av salary £12,000 ) and add in those on ZHC zero hours contracts, you have France/Italy/Portugal/Spain but without the sunshine and olive oil diet

Pork Pies

And without all the Brits working in aforesaid countries/retired on the better state pensions available in them/unemployed on the better benefits available in them ...
 

Ecker

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Nigel Farridge on BBC news on saturday (28th Feb) morning:

"All the balls are in the air"

Keep 'em coming Nige, that's the way to win an election.
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
Well, it is getting a bit more interesting - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-31870691 .

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Gramaisc

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Something else for various UKIP candidates to not like looking at. It'll be something about their faces. Or those stripes. Or all that grass they eat. Why can't they assimilate and eat fishandchips like everyone else?
People with Irish heritage are not to be defined as immigrants by UKIP standards - says Mark Reckless (whose mother came from Sligo, by the purest coincidence).

Perhaps that might work for the Bongos?
 

Noah

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People with Irish heritage are not to be defined as immigrants by UKIP standards - says Mark Reckless (whose mother came from Sligo, by the purest coincidence).

Do not Irish citizens have a right of entry to the UK, and UK citizens to the Republic of Ireland, under the terms of the 1921 Treaty?
 

Gramaisc

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Do not Irish citizens have a right of entry to the UK, and UK citizens to the Republic of Ireland, under the terms of the 1921 Treaty?
Quite bizarrely, citizens of the republic do not require a passport to transfer between Ireland and the UK, and the same applies to UK subjects entering or leaving the republic. This causes major issues, as the UK Border Agency have to guess who needs a passport and who doesn't, having opted opt of the Schengen agreement they still find themselves in effectively the same situation - and there is no control at all over the border between the republic and Northern Ireland.

There has been talk (only talk, so far, as nobody has had the nerve to pursue it) of requiring everybody from Ireland, North and South, to produce a passport to enter Great Britain from the island of Ireland - I suspect they might have been waiting for Ian Paisley to die before attempting to implement that....
 

Noah

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There has been talk (only talk, so far, as nobody has had the nerve to pursue it) of requiring everybody from Ireland, North and South, to produce a passport to enter Great Britain from the island of Ireland - I suspect they might have been waiting for Ian Paisley to die before attempting to implement that....

That might require renegotiation of the 1921 Treaty, which really would open a can of worms.
 

Gramaisc

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That might require renegotiation of the 1921 Treaty, which really would open a can of worms.
Many fundamental parts of the that treaty have long gone, the Free State is not a self-governing dominion of the Empire, nor even a member of the Commonwealth, the monarch is not the head of state and members of the Dáil don't swear allegiance to the monarch, the naval bases have gone, etc...

If UKIP, etc., want to control immigration and leave the EU, then they will find themselves with 250 mile land border with an EU state which will continue to allow free travel.
 
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