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Gramaisc

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I'm surprised Howes responded like that, I found them quite reasonable. There are others that will collect if you do the search that I mentioned previously.

Also if you Google the model number e.g. Triang Hornby R871, etc. you'll get an idea of what others are asking for.
I had a look through Howes' second-hand stuff and it was generally a bit more modern. I wonder if they just 'move on' any of the 'old standard' to someone else, rather than clutter up their own offerings with it?

Of course, Hattons have gone now, despite looking like the market leaders for many years, and that has left a huge hole in the model railway world.

The quality of the stuff being produced these days makes the 'heritage model' very much a niche area.

A niche area with a diminishing clientele, probably.
 

littleme

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....today we turned the water off in the house using the stop valve under the sink as we are fitting a new suite.

So we had no water in the bathroom or kitchen. That's what I expected.

But, we still had water in our downstairs toilet....I would have thought turning off the stop tap, would turn the water off there too .. apparently not.

Had anyone come across this before... Our house is a 1950s council build, bathroom upstairs, extra toilet downstairs, majority of plumbing put in by council before we bought it 18 years ago.
 

Cue

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....today we turned the water off in the house using the stop valve under the sink as we are fitting a new suite.

So we had no water in the bathroom or kitchen. That's what I expected.

But, we still had water in our downstairs toilet....I would have thought turning off the stop tap, would turn the water off there too .. apparently not.

Had anyone come across this before... Our house is a 1950s council build, bathroom upstairs, extra toilet downstairs, majority of plumbing put in by council before we bought it 18 years ago.

If the stop valve is right after the meter, I think you need to start selling it bottled from your downstairs sink.
 

Glam

Mad Cat Woman
If the stop valve is right after the meter, I think you need to start selling it bottled from your downstairs sink.
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littleme

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If the stop valve is right after the meter, I think you need to start selling it bottled from your downstairs sink.
No idea where the meter is 🤣🤣🤣..were not currently metered... Stop valve is currently unde the kitchen sink.. . But where is the stop for the downstairs loo, it's not the main one....so where's the water coming from? Are we paying for it? How the heck do we turn if off if we ever need to do anything in there?


(Thinking of removing downstairs loo, replacing with washing machine, which leaves room in kitchen for a dishwasher... so nothing I've never had as no room)
N'orf end spring water....direct from the cabinets.....
 

Mudgie

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....today we turned the water off in the house using the stop valve under the sink as we are fitting a new suite.

So we had no water in the bathroom or kitchen. That's what I expected.

But, we still had water in our downstairs toilet....I would have thought turning off the stop tap, would turn the water off there too .. apparently not.

Had anyone come across this before... Our house is a 1950s council build, bathroom upstairs, extra toilet downstairs, majority of plumbing put in by council before we bought it 18 years ago.
Maybe the bathroom or kitchen have water direct from the mains via the kitchen but the downstairs toilet is fed from the cold water tank in the loft ?
I suspect that the downstairs toilet is a later addition to the house's original plumbing.
 
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Gadget

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No idea where the meter is 🤣🤣🤣..were not currently metered... Stop valve is currently unde the kitchen sink.. . But where is the stop for the downstairs loo, it's not the main one....so where's the water coming from? Are we paying for it? How the heck do we turn if off if we ever need to do anything in there?


(Thinking of removing downstairs loo, replacing with washing machine, which leaves room in kitchen for a dishwasher... so nothing I've never had as no room)

N'orf end spring water....direct from the cabinets.....
As much as that sounds like a fantastic idea to you now. Can I gently remind you of your knees. Chances are as time goes on, they aren't going to get better. Even if you happily take yourself upstairs now to use the facilities, the time may come where you would give anything to not have to climb those stairs and certainly not quickly. Then there will be lots of swearing and eventually you'd be looking at having to revert it back to a loo.
If you've already thought about this, all great.

We have a dishwasher, don't technically have room for a dishwasher. It sits on the worktop next to the sink. In previous incarnations it's sat on the draining board when we didn't have a worktop near the sink.
 

tek-monkey

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No idea where the meter is 🤣🤣🤣..were not currently metered... Stop valve is currently unde the kitchen sink.. . But where is the stop for the downstairs loo, it's not the main one....so where's the water coming from? Are we paying for it? How the heck do we turn if off if we ever need to do anything in there?


(Thinking of removing downstairs loo, replacing with washing machine, which leaves room in kitchen for a dishwasher... so nothing I've never had as no room)

N'orf end spring water....direct from the cabinets.....
Is there one in the street outside? Had this in an exes house, the kitchen had a stop tap but that was only for the back of the house, the toilet at the front branched off before.
 

Glam

Mad Cat Woman
As much as that sounds like a fantastic idea to you now. Can I gently remind you of your knees. Chances are as time goes on, they aren't going to get better. Even if you happily take yourself upstairs now to use the facilities, the time may come where you would give anything to not have to climb those stairs and certainly not quickly. Then there will be lots of swearing and eventually you'd be looking at having to revert it back to a loo.
If you've already thought about this, all great.

We have a dishwasher, don't technically have room for a dishwasher. It sits on the worktop next to the sink. In previous incarnations it's sat on the draining board when we didn't have a worktop near the sink.
Not to push in, but I would give anything to have the room for a spare loo. Well, my bladder would.
 

littleme

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As much as that sounds like a fantastic idea to you now. Can I gently remind you of your knees. Chances are as time goes on, they aren't going to get better. Even if you happily take yourself upstairs now to use the facilities, the time may come where you would give anything to not have to climb those stairs and certainly not quickly. Then there will be lots of swearing and eventually you'd be looking at having to revert it back to a loo.
If you've already thought about this, all great.

We have a dishwasher, don't technically have room for a dishwasher. It sits on the worktop next to the sink. In previous incarnations it's sat on the draining board when we didn't have a worktop near the sink.
Yes, I see your point, although codines worked wonders on my knees... Untill Monday when I decided Id take only half my tablets... Still suffering today
 

littleme

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Maybe the bathroom or kitchen have water direct from the mains via the kitchen but the downstairs toilet is fed from the cold water tank in the loft ?
I suspect that the downstairs toilet is a later addition to the house's original plumbing.
I think you're right, same today!
 

staffordjas

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No idea where the meter is 🤣🤣🤣..were not currently metered...
Our meter is on the connection under the grid on the pavement , where water can be turned on or off, in an emergency on the boundary of who is responsible for repairs to leaks , ST or us . The neighbours aren't paying for their water metered , but ST knew they had a leak as they still read a meter that's on it like ours , but just not billed on it. (If that makes sense?) So maybe you have a meter there but not being billed on it?
 

staffordjas

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(Thinking of removing downstairs loo, replacing with washing machine, which leaves room in kitchen for a dishwasher... so nothing I've never had as no room)
Keep that downstairs loo @littleme. When I had my fall and broke bones, luckily my legs stayed intact. I realised that if I'd have broken my legs etc I would have been in a bit of a pickle with both our loos upstairs !



I'd take a downstairs loo being put in any day over having a dishwasher (I'm the dishwasher , with a bowl in the sink. Never used a dishwasher , apart from the school kitchens, and not bothered about having one )
 
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tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Our meter is on the connection under the grid on the pavement , where water can be turned on or off, in an emergency on the boundary of who is responsible for repairs to leaks , ST or us . The neighbours aren't paying for their water metered , but ST knew they had a leak as they still read a meter that's on it like ours , but just not billed on it. (If that makes sense?) So maybe you have a meter there but not being billed on it?
We had one installed in the last few years, along with a letter saying it is a meter but we aren't billed off it but they might decide to later.
 

Glam

Mad Cat Woman
Not to push in, but I would give anything to have the room for a spare loo. Well, my bladder would.
Getting back to this, with being part cripple when the knee goes, It's a bugger getting upstairs by going up on my bum, while carrying a pair of crutches. A downstairs loo would have been beautiful., and a damn sight quicker. That or we need a bungalow, no sheer drop stairs to contend with x
 

Gramaisc

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Getting back to this, with being part cripple when the knee goes, It's a bugger getting upstairs by going up on my bum, while carrying a pair of crutches. A downstairs loo would have been beautiful., and a damn sight quicker. That or we need a bungalow, no sheer drop stairs to contend with x
A second pair of crutches upstairs?

Often available in KH shops.
 

joshua

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Getting back to this, with being part cripple when the knee goes, It's a bugger getting upstairs by going up on my bum, while carrying a pair of crutches. A downstairs loo would have been beautiful., and a damn sight quicker. That or we need a bungalow, no sheer drop stairs to contend with x
If this is going to be your "forever home" you might want to look into a downstairs loo/bathroom or even a lift or stairlift, it may seem extreme but mobility issues tend to get worse not better over time and trying to move either yourself or your partner can very quickly get to be too much.
 

Glam

Mad Cat Woman
If this is going to be your "forever home" you might want to look into a downstairs loo/bathroom or even a lift or stairlift, it may seem extreme but mobility issues tend to get worse not better over time and trying to move either yourself or your partner can very quickly get to be too much.
That's very true. I don't expect the youngest to be here forever, even tho he says he's in no rush to move out. We've actually been talking about him getting a loan for an extention, this will of course include the provision of a downstairs loo.
It's that, or he sees how much mortgage he is able get and this place goes up for sale and we move.
 
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