Guildhall closure?

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Withnail

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kyoto49 said:
Apologies if I've missed it but what's happening to this place?
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First up, is this a genuine question?
kyoto49 said:
I think the Guildhall situation sums up Stafford BC to be honest. Oblivious to residents and everyone remaining clueless about what is going on :(
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So it wasn't.

Not to be all - in your face or anything - just so's we know...

When you ask questions, which you do a lot, you are generally making statements, rather than actually looking for answers.

Would this be a reasonable assessment?
 
GNM67

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Part of the timber frame has rotted and fallen down in Crabbery street and is on the pavement
 
Bodger

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The Borough Council are trying to buy the Guildhall (Future High Street Fund) but Mercia Leisure that currently own it want too high a price apparently
 
Noah

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Mudgie said:
Didn't our Borough Council sell the Guildhall Centre some years ago ?
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"The Guildhall was originally developed and owned by the Standard Life Assurance Company and the architects for the scheme were Fitch Benoy. Standard Life sold the Guildhall Shopping Centre to Tops Estates in March 2000 and it was subsequently sold to Land Securities in December 2004, then to Glanmore Properties in September 2005. Finally it was sold to Edinburgh House in September 2014.

The first Managing Agents were CB Hillier Parker and this changed to Colliers CRE in March 2000. Donaldsons took over the scheme in April 2002 and DTZ became its Managing Agents on 1 January 2007. Edinburgh House purchased and took over the day to day management of the scheme in February 2016. In 2020 the managing of the centre changed over to Estama (UK) Ltd.

In May 2021 the centre was sold to Mercia Real Estate with the managing being retained by Estama (UK) Ltd."

Mercia Real Estate

Mercia Leisure went into liquidation in 1990 and the company was struck off the register in 2019
 
Theresa Green

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Two years
£14 million
9% inflation

Stafford Borough Councillors to erect a fence somewhere in the town centre, anywhere is fine, with a small square cut out for the public to view through

Locals will be able to peek through and see the daily value of the Government grant as it rapidly tumbles and shrinks to next to nothing thanks to inaction and rampant inflation

Maybe they will sack themselves out of sheer embarrassment

Maybe we will get that new Sus Scrofa Airport
 
Mudgie

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Noah said:
"The Guildhall was originally developed and owned by the Standard Life Assurance Company and the architects for the scheme were Fitch Benoy. Standard Life sold the Guildhall Shopping Centre to Tops Estates in March 2000 and it was subsequently sold to Land Securities in December 2004, then to Glanmore Properties in September 2005. Finally it was sold to Edinburgh House in September 2014.

The first Managing Agents were CB Hillier Parker and this changed to Colliers CRE in March 2000. Donaldsons took over the scheme in April 2002 and DTZ became its Managing Agents on 1 January 2007. Edinburgh House purchased and took over the day to day management of the scheme in February 2016. In 2020 the managing of the centre changed over to Estama (UK) Ltd.

In May 2021 the centre was sold to Mercia Real Estate with the managing being retained by Estama (UK) Ltd."

Mercia Real Estate

Mercia Leisure went into liquidation in 1990 and the company was struck off the register in 2019
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Thanks.
 
Studio Tan

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. . . So could the time be right for a ‘torch and pitchfork’ mob of Staffordians to occupy the Guildhall in some kind of ‘Special Military Operation’ - and to rename and reinstate it as ‘St John’s Market’ ?
 
Mudgie

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Noah said:
Borough Council probably flogged the site to Standard Life though.
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Yes, that's it, much of the site having been the larger old market in a proper market hall.
Never mind though, the council probably got a few thousand pounds for the plot, and the grand opening was a chance for the Princess Royal to come to town.
 
Mudgie

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Noah said:
Bit of a nuisance that. Everytime I do a search for information on the Princess Royal pub in Stafford I get masses of results about her visit.
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I knew that if anyone was going to bring pubs into a topic it would be you !!
But as you mention the pub, it's a decent pint of Banks's Amber Bitter for £3.40.
 
Gramaisc

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'Princess Royal' seems an odd thing to say.

If a princess isn't royal, is she even a princess at all?

And, aren't all the other princesses royal, too?
 
Mudgie

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Gramaisc said:
'Princess Royal' seems an odd thing to say.

If a princess isn't royal, is she even a princess at all?

And, aren't all the other princesses royal, too?
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The style Princess Royal came into existence when Queen Henrietta Maria (1609–1669), daughter of Henry IV, King of France, and wife of King Charles I (1600–1649), wanted to imitate the way the eldest daughter of the King of France was styled "Madame Royale"
 
Mudgie

Mudgie

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Gramaisc said:
Defining a madame to be 'royal' seems fair enough, but to do it to a princess just seems tautology to me.
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Yes, but the then incumbent visiting Sandon Hall gave one of our pubs a perfectly good name, not that she was any more likely to call in for a pint of Dawsons than Anne was decades later for a pint of Banks's.
 
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