Glam
Mad Cat Woman
I believe that everyone is skilled in whatever job they do.
So just because you work in a shop, compared to say, sitting on your arse in the council offices, you should just accept redundancy?
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No and you clearly missed the point.
I clearly outlined that fact by `nobody want job losses` all jobs are important but mass redundancy in a small town area I.e. 500-600 jobs at GE which they are the biggest private employer with little choice of similar employment alternatives, compared 30-40 jobs max in retail in a town where retail options are more rife..........you do the maths and tell me what is worse?!
I clearly outlined that fact by `nobody want job losses` all jobs are important but mass redundancy in a small town area I.e. 500-600 jobs at GE which they are the biggest private employer with little choice of similar employment alternatives, compared 30-40 jobs max in retail in a town where retail options are more rife..........you do the maths and tell me what is worse?!
Too Proactive:
It is not about words of comfort the question is what has the biggest impact or of most concern.
The thing is moot for Stafford, ToysrUs is a 4 month store with temporary/ zero hour staff compared to 500 permanent GE jobs.
Tell me who is worried more this Christmas and what the local MP is most concerned over?
It is not about words of comfort the question is what has the biggest impact or of most concern.
The thing is moot for Stafford, ToysrUs is a 4 month store with temporary/ zero hour staff compared to 500 permanent GE jobs.
Tell me who is worried more this Christmas and what the local MP is most concerned over?
You may think that every job role is skilled, but reality is that is not true, there are skilled and unskilled roles.
Those who go through years of further education and qualifications, vocational training, have years of experience in a roleetc etc are skilled, compared to a shelf stacking temp job........they are world's apart.
proactive
Enjoying a drop of red.
Malaria, fair trade, anything Africa related (look at the questions he asks in Parliament, see how few of them relate to his constituency or constituents.
Oh and of course his primary concern is keeping jobs and services in the Newcastle area.
Glam
Mad Cat Woman
What's so funny about that?
You really come across as such a snob Gareth.
The Hawk
Well-Known Forumite
I think you'll find his primary concern is keeping one particular job in Westminster!
Really?
Well-Known Forumite
I speak as a very proud Retailer. We have the most skilled people in the country working with us. In our real world an MBA stands for "Means Bugger All". It takes years and years of training and dedication to become a good Retailer. Attending a college to learn the difference between a red wire and yellow wire is hardly the same as learning and understanding the foibles of the general population and the skills required to learn good marketing skills. Those who decry "shelf stackers" have a very one sided view of what Retail is. For me, every empty shop is another dream destroyed, proof that someone else has put their money where their mouth is and tried to make something out of their lives and has usually lost everything whilst being derided by those who sneer at them whilst not having the guts to do it themselves. If a Retailer closes we just sneer and blame the Retailer. If GE closes we want to help. No one ever says "actually, you deserved it, you are providing the wrong product to the wrong market at the wrong price and the wrong quality"
As a few of my family work for GE they are the first to admit that, in the past, there have been dozens, probably hundreds of so called "qualified" people who didn't know their arse from their elbow and just warmed a chair. Not so much now, granted, but only because there are so few left. GE practiced the Dilbert principle to the N'th degree, probably bringing about some of their issues. I am sure the M.P.s words yesterday is a great comfort to them all: "After a good year in which unemployment in Stafford fell to record lows, the news of job losses at General Electric in Stafford and Rugby in the coming months is a blow; and my thoughts are with those affected" Talk about believing your own publicity !
As a few of my family work for GE they are the first to admit that, in the past, there have been dozens, probably hundreds of so called "qualified" people who didn't know their arse from their elbow and just warmed a chair. Not so much now, granted, but only because there are so few left. GE practiced the Dilbert principle to the N'th degree, probably bringing about some of their issues. I am sure the M.P.s words yesterday is a great comfort to them all: "After a good year in which unemployment in Stafford fell to record lows, the news of job losses at General Electric in Stafford and Rugby in the coming months is a blow; and my thoughts are with those affected" Talk about believing your own publicity !
Really?
Well-Known Forumite
I suppose their is no connection between what he is "concerned" about and what his "African" business sells?
Jade-clothing
Well-Known Forumite
I usually mostly agree with you @Gareth but I have to say I totally disagree with you on this one. I've worked in Retail my whole life, mostly in management or running my own business and it's a very skilled job. Not everyone has the right temperament to deal with customers every day.
As many know I was made redundant in February from my job as the manager at Saffron. That was a highly skilled position. I'm a qualified bra fitter - I don't just use a tape measure, I fit by eye because its extremely important that a bra fits properly to prevent problems. I'm a qualified breast feeding counsellor so would often give breast feeding advice to new mums when they came in for their bra fittings. I also dealt with fitting the poor ladies who had had breast cancer and had one or both breasts removed. It's not just about the fitting here either, these ladies often came in feeling really low and un feminine so I would give advice, make them feel good about themselves or provide a shoulder to cry on. My counsellor training often came in really handy there too. I absolutely guarantee there are many ladies who miss Saffron for its' unique blend of expert fitting and personal service. I would imagine other areas of retail need expert knowledge too.
proactive
Enjoying a drop of red.
Entirely coincidental, I'm sure.
littleme
250,000th poster!
You really are quite a dick!
basil
don't mention the blinds
Quite a compliment.....
Withnail
Well-Known Forumite
Our Member of Parliament has never received a vote from me - in the two times he's asked me for it.
The one thing that i know of on which we do agree is maintaining our current level - multilaterally agreed at the UN but not necessarily delivered upon by all signatories to said agreement - of a commitment to spending 70p for every £100 we spend elsewhere to make people not want to leave where they are, but fancy a future for themselves where they are already at.
Even though i know it is not always money well spent, i also know that, on the whole, people want to stay where they are.
It is, generally, cataclysmic things that make people want to be where they already aren't.
Wars are obviously cataclysmic, but many other things - like hopelessness for example - also are.
People only move when there is no obvious alternative.
This is why i don't understand why our 'Leave' brethren are the most vociferous campaigners for cutting our overseas aid budget?
The one thing that i know of on which we do agree is maintaining our current level - multilaterally agreed at the UN but not necessarily delivered upon by all signatories to said agreement - of a commitment to spending 70p for every £100 we spend elsewhere to make people not want to leave where they are, but fancy a future for themselves where they are already at.
Even though i know it is not always money well spent, i also know that, on the whole, people want to stay where they are.
It is, generally, cataclysmic things that make people want to be where they already aren't.
Wars are obviously cataclysmic, but many other things - like hopelessness for example - also are.
People only move when there is no obvious alternative.
This is why i don't understand why our 'Leave' brethren are the most vociferous campaigners for cutting our overseas aid budget?
Gramaisc
Forum O. G.
I often ask how much of the 'aid' budget ever actually leaves the UK.