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Union Strikes at Perkins, Stafford - 2010
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yes, having the maintenence out for two weeks will have no effect on the state of the art testing facility that hardly ever breaks down and hasn't been the bottle neck of the production lines for the last seven years.and lets not forget the engine wash which doesn't seem to run for more than a day at a time, another £700,000 well spentCreamCake said:Looks like the strike is collapsing, all the blokes are back at work next week except for the maintenance department who are out for two weeks.
The only thing our maintenance department guys do is stop the coffee machine from falling over.
typical perkins attitude there cream cake, bury your head in the sand and bumble from one mistake to the next
this isn't a collapse its an escalation and the resolve of the union is as strong as ever and is being fueled by the facility managers childish behavior
tek-monkey
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Its amazing they make a profit at all!
supernova
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Striker1 - can you be specific about the "childish behaviour" you refer to please?Striker1 said:
Also, we keep seeing comments like "you don't know the half of it", etc. What is going on (apart from the specific disagreement over pay and the timing of the offer Perkins have made)?
tek-monkey
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You could always tell us? Also if the shop floor workers are amazed the place makes a profit, yet it makes loads, the management must be doing something right?Striker1 said:
in reference to the childish behavior, he was offered by the union a suspension of this weeks strike so some sort of talks could be arranged to try and come to a compromise-- he declinedsupernova said:
ACAS offered to help come to a compromise -- he declined
ther are at presant alot of disaplinary procedures happening,many without any real basis.
he sends threatening letters to our homes which only makes us more determined.
it really is like a young boy going home with his ball,even alot of the junior management are begining to doubt him and his ways,but maybe he has a different agenda and wants the place shut.hes made it quite clear that he doesn't want to be there.
i'm not going to say anything else about the management on here,like any company there are some good and some bad
i truly doff my cap to the sales team as they are able to sell these engines in such large numbers,and i agree with shoes earlier post that its not just the shopfloor workers who should be getting a rise and the office staff should be suitably rewarded for the plants success.
a quick look at forbes.com and in particular the caterpillar executive management will highlight that some are being rewarded for caterpillars success quite generously and then telling us the need for belt tightening.
i dont begrudge these people their huge salaries and bonuses,it means the corporation is in a good position.but when the financial information is freely available on the internet they should not be telling us there is no money in the kitty.
i hope not for alot of peoples sake.supernova said:
some interesting reading on this link, http://people.forbes.com/profile/douglas-r-oberhelman/4242
i think the bonus we are allegedly getting is similar to his non equity incentive plan, obviously not the amounts
thats the point, why cant doug take a 12.25% bonus? and do you think he will settle for a 4% rise over 3 years?supernova said:
remember he doesn't own the company he just works there like the rest of us.
the strike is about fairness as said before. perkins peterbough are already enjoying their pay rise and will get the same bonus as us and the rest of the caterpillar workers worldwide but their bonus will be on their new salary rate so worth more than staffords all we want is what seems to on offer for others. we make a good profit at stafford so why not?
its ok, what department do you work in?CreamCake said:Striker 1 - just a bit of banter, I knew you couldn't resist
Thanks for sharing your side of the argument, many people simply are not aware of all the issues going on, as so many things seem to be happening at the moment.
tek-monkey
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Are you telling me that if you were promoted past those around you, you wouldn't expect a bigger slice of the pie?Striker1 said:
Interesting point, there must be a reason that Cat feels the Staffs branch aren't worth it. Any idea why? If a site making a loss gets a pay rise, but one making a profit doesn't, what does that say? To me it says Staffords days are numbered, because if the site was as viable as you say they'd fight to keep it. Only a complete 'tard would destroy their most profitable site, so is it really?Striker1 said:
CreamCake
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Perkins (formerly Dormans ) used to be owned by GEC and they ran the place into the ground (piss poor management) then sold the place to Borgman and Yates (former apprentices who own Broadcrown ) for £1. They sold the place several years later to Perkins and walked away with £12,500,000 each.
Poor management can kill a factory in no time. Thats the problem with British industry, we are brilliant inventors (especially the Scottish and English) but we really struggle to run our factories and workforce efficiently and fairly.
I see the Chinese are now suffering strikes in their factories so maybe once they become wealthy enough they will go down a similar path.
Poor management can kill a factory in no time. Thats the problem with British industry, we are brilliant inventors (especially the Scottish and English) but we really struggle to run our factories and workforce efficiently and fairly.
I see the Chinese are now suffering strikes in their factories so maybe once they become wealthy enough they will go down a similar path.
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If you don't protect what you've got it gets taken away from you quicker. If you resist you can stall it or maybe even stop it, c'est la vie.Withnail said:
What Stafford has in the Perkins Engine Centre plant is an old product that has a shelf-life (has some marginal development opportunities). This Caterpillar understand only too well, knowing that a product that has already being professed doesn't warrant paying a skilled rate to assemble.
The Plan;
1) Call your shop floor workforce operators.
2) Butter them up by saying that they are the experts.
3) Make Continuous Improvement ideas an obligation for operators (no reward scheme in place).
4) Train all new starters to perform small aspects of engine building.
5) Don't issue new contracts that should become available through retirement, resignations or dismissals.
6) Aim for a high percentage of agency workers.
7) Freeze wage bill.
8) Let skilled workers leave due to diminishing wages.
9) Create non/semi skilled workforce (issue free coffee and cakes to keep happy
).10) Reap the profits!
Caterpillar's Values in Action = People - Quality - Velocity - Cost, to be prioritised in this order.
Is it me or is PQVC just a romantic notion?