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Minds your backs!tek-monkey said:
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shoes
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Whilst I agree with Gramsiac in that yes evolution has certainly been proven beyond all reasonable doubt and as far as I'm concerned, and by the sound of it most people, it's a done deal. However Tek is right, there are still people out there unfortunate enough to have been brainwashed by their peerage in believing that all these obscenely intelligent and well read people are wrong and that in fact god created everything with a flick of his wrist and the word abracadabra (which, incidentally, I have no idea how to spell lol).tek-monkey said:
Therefore I think research into evolution should continue until the god botherers realise the error in simply believing something because you're told to.
Not to mention, how cool would it be to hatch a dinosaur!!!
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Can you imagine the drumsticks!! Is there enough secret recipe battermix in the world?djstaffs said:Again last night they were talking about how the planet will soon be runnin gout of resources so this sounds a great idea...bloody big chickens, imagine how many people you can feed on that...lol i belieave KFC are looking at it already:
Don't know if anyone else saw Charlie Brookers quiz show thingamy the other week....had a clip of some "god botherers" in the US proving the God exists because of bananas. Can't believe they actually thought they had a logical arguement.
Linky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF3L359yKjs
Linky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF3L359yKjs
djstaffs
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Oh dear. Now as a sinner i can say, hand on heart, i believe in god and the christian faith and most of all i came to god of my choice, and not because i was told to believe.shoes said:
I also belieave in evolution. Which does pose a dilema for me, how to manage my faith and also the plain truth and eveidence. But i dont think that means god doesnt exsist. Nor do i have the answers. If i did i would be god
But i still like "god botherer"
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Luckily I think the local populace are a tad more inclined towards evolution (or just don't care). Not sure I've actually ever met anyone that doesn't believe in it TBHGramaisc said:
Well if I was that powerful I'd be a tad pissed off at someone bothering me cos they want to pass a driving test/win the lottery/destroy all infidels! Do you believe in evolution?djstaffs said:rofltek-monkey said:As a "god botherer" i love this term.....
EDIT: I see you have now answered that. Out of interest, I have met a few Christians who regard the old testament as a book of stories to guide people, rather than actual fact. Is this common?
OK, will have to give that a watch later! I'm sure I've heard an argument against evolution based on the fact that some creatures are so specialised that no freak accident could have caused them - despite the fact they are so specialised at surviving in a very specific environment that all animals that couldn't adapt would have died.Furbal said:
shoes
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I agree with you in as much as there is no proof that god doesn't exist, however there is no proof he does, so its all a bit of a stalemate.djstaffs said:Oh dear. Now as a sinner i can say, hand on heart, i believe in god and the christian faith and most of all i came to god of my choice, and not because i was told to believe.shoes said:
I also belieave in evolution. Which does pose a dilema for me, how to manage my faith and also the plain truth and eveidence. But i dont think that means god doesnt exsist. Nor do i have the answers. If i did i would be god
But i still like "god botherer"
Fair enough if you have chosen that particular lifestyle, makes no sense to me but then again I'm sure to some people my lifestyle seems bizzare. Each to their own.
You're average god botherer of course is as open minded as the next man, the real problems, as ever, lie with people who take it all a bit too literally! If you have a google about (and it won't take long) you'll find some hilarious conversations between extreme creationists and non-believers.
djstaffs
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Part of the PR problem for religion is that there are so many people who believe all sorts of things and bend the bible to meet their needs. To answer your sepcific question no i dont think it is common but possibly another example of making things fit to our lives, changing the facts so the facts support the way they want to live rather than living a life according to what you say you believe.tek-monkey said:
But i am rather new to religion as a serious believer so still finding these things out.
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I think thats what has always annoyed me, but I'm kind of a black or white person. Either the bible is gods word and you should live by it strictly, or its merely a guide book to be updated as necessary. You can't say one part is divine communication if another is merely a story. Then of course there are multiple religions, some with multiple gods, so the majority of worshipers must be wrong as they don't believe in each others gods. Only one can be right according to most religions.
If they are real though, I still want to meet Thor. That'd be cool
If they are real though, I still want to meet Thor. That'd be cool
djstaffs
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Yep. And i know which one is righttek-monkey said:
: lol i think the basic premise of most religions is the same, worship god and live right. Around that different religions have built certain ceremonies and even today these are changed so the style differs greatly, but the substance does (or should)stay the same.Because events happened so long ago i guess its a little like 'chinese whispers' that the message gets interpreted differently.
As i said, i dont have the answers. But i do have my belief and i know the events that have brought me to where i am. So can i shamelessly get a plug in here and just mention i have a just started a thread in the 'out and about' section that is religious theamed. Take a look if you want to.
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I believe Bernard Mathews has already completed a similar project...tek-monkey said:
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My colony unfortunately went extinct at the end of last year 
Now if they could survive in a pond I'd get more, doubt it though.
Now if they could survive in a pond I'd get more, doubt it though.
shoes
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The 'Shameless' generation of benefit addicts: Almost five million adults live in workless homes
Surely now we can put an end to this!?
Surely now we can put an end to this!?
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Yet apparently I am "middle class" and shouldn't be paid to have a child like the scroungers of this country
Afterall, we wouldn't want "middle class" hard working folk giving birth to "middle class" kids that are likely to work hard and pay taxes in the future no would we....?
Afterall, we wouldn't want "middle class" hard working folk giving birth to "middle class" kids that are likely to work hard and pay taxes in the future no would we....?
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